Re: [WSG] New CSS site

Peter, About browser warning messages... About 8 months ago Peter (Firminger - listdad) and I took off all of our browser warnings entirely. The message is designed for older browsers (with significant political reasons at the time it was developed) but it is a pain for other devices that are fo

Re: [WSG] Definition list... time for closure!

I agree we have split enough hairs for a while. We are really getting down to personal opinion. Any further discussion is best done offlist. Thanks Russ > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:56:37 -, P.H.Lauke wrote: >> And how, in that case, is the use of UL bad ? Sure, UL is >> generic, but it does

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

Option A is completely acceptable, and is actually very close to a W3C example: Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-list.html#edef_list_dt Russ > > Hi all, >

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

Jamie, I assume you mean "tables or lists" rather than" tables or CSS"? Whether you use tables or lists you should probably be using CSS in some form to control the presentation of this content - keeping in mind that one of our aims is to remove all presentation from the actual page and instead us

[WSG] Code is food

Photomatt has come up with a great analogy for why good code is important: http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/03/10/code-is-food/ Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Links for light reading...

The Web Standards Awards - run by Johan Edlund, Andy Budd, Cameron Adams has announced their first "site of the month". http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/the_85th_pga_championship.html#7 Also worth browsing their previous weekly Web Standards Awards winners: http://www.webstandardsawards.

Re: [WSG] Cascading background colors

Peter, The important question is - do you know why it worked the second time around? The answer is that the second rule has more "specificity". Before you added the td to the second rule, the first rule was more specific, so the second rule was ignored. When you added the td into the second rule

Re: [WSG] best ways to "sell" web standards

There are heaps of articles on this, as well as answers on this list. Try this: http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg01324.html Thanks Russ > > When preparing a proposal for a potential client or trying to convince > your management, what are the tried and true methods used

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

Frank, I completely agree with Tonico. Many people getting into web standards assume that it is based on removing tables. This is incorrect. There are times and places for tables. However, one of the main aims of web standards is to make your content more accessible to devices and users. This mea

Re: [WSG] Melbourne WSG Meeting

gt; * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ********* Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433 980 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxdes

Re: [WSG] Weird Problem...

Is the indent 3 pixels wide? If so, it may be the 3 pixel text jog bug: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html If so, I would not recommend the hack suggest in the article. There are any ways to work around the problem without hacks of any sort. On method would be to simply

Re: [WSG] Open critique? - colour deficiency

Nate, The term "Colour blindness" is now frowned on. Apparently "colour deficiency" is the more correct term - for what it's worth. :) Anyway, there are basically three types of colour deficiency. They are: 1. Deuteranope (a form of red/green colour deficit) 2. Protanope (another form of red/gre

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

Regarding accreditation, I reckon the best place to start is the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) which produces (amongst other things) Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. These guidelines have include the all-important checkpoints that are broken into three priorities. Ideally, web developers

Re: [WSG] font-family : what fonts do you set as default?

Oops. That should be: { font-family : Georgia, Times, "Times New Roman", serif; } :( Russ > { font-family : Georgia, Times, "Times New Roman", sans-serif; } * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] font-family : what fonts do you set as default?

Neerav, That is a very hard question to answer as the choice font-family is not entirely dependant on readability. The overall site design may influence your choice of font family to some degree. Fonts families and font sizes are hotly debated topics. We did a lot of reading some time back on fon

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

> Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool > Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > *

Re: [WSG] Open critique?

Some interesting comments already: http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/aiga_atlanta.html#comments The first comment is simply opinion on the design, but the second comment mentions some good accessibility issues that should be considered. Russ > > Forget CSS Vault, I already awarded it on

Re: [WSG] Open critique?

Hi Nate, Welcome to the list. Open critiques on this list are great - as long as feedback is helpful rather than abrasive. :) Criticism or praise? How about some praise: I have only looked at the front page but I think it's an excellent example of a web standards based portal. The main page has

Re: [WSG] css bug & sites css critique

Andy is correct. Browsers all have their own default margin or padding that must be removed if you want your content butting hard against the browser window edges. B aware that different browsers use different methods. More here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/body/ Russ > >> Any idea

[WSG] Some light reading...

Apologies to those who have already seen these... Positioning and the Cascade http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/04/positioning_/ A Recipe for Learning Web Design http://www.digital-web.com/features/recipe_for_web_design.shtml CSS and Wired - interview with Doug Bowman: http://www.macrome

Re: [WSG] Spiritual Compliance

Hi Ben, There are two points of view about definition lists - one is a rigid definition of definition lists (pardon the pun) and the other is more open. The second point of view is actually supported by the W3C spec. This has been discussed/argued about numerous times on the list. Rather than brin

Re: [WSG] Nicely styled Hx tags

Oops. You're correct! Maybe I should just let John quote himself! :) Russ > > Russ, > > Perhaps this quote of John Allsop's should read, "...how much worse is > it to put *content* inside the CSS file?" > > -Hugh Todd :) > >> John Allsopp (one of the original CSS guru's) explains this better

Re: [WSG] Nicely styled Hx tags

Hi Kay, Apologies for the long rave below... The most detailed article on image replacement options is Dave Shea's image replacement page: http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/ However, all of these image replacement methods have serious downsides that should be explained to

Re: [WSG] centre image with css

Hi Neerav, Try this - just one method of centering images: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/imagecenter/ The two things you need to do (if you want to use this method) is set the container (in this case the body) to centre (this overcomes the IE centering bug) and the item (the image) with ma

Re: [WSG] Need CSS assistance

Hi Jeff, You need to add a declaration into the following rule set: div#banner1 { position: absolute; top: 10px; left: 10px; padding-top: 75px; height: 96px; width: 260px; background-image: url("../images/X_logo.gif"); } Add this: background-repeat: no-repeat; Stops the image being tiles th

Re: [WSG] Coding Standard...

Forgive me for sounding grumpy, but I think this sort of thing can go on too long. We are not talking about standards or best practices now, we are talking about personal preferences. Whitespace inside a declaration block is ignored - so it can be used to lay out rules or rules sets in any way you

Re: [WSG] Newbie question - initial display

y Mountains > Colorado, USA > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * Thanks Russ -

[WSG] Links for reading...

Side-stepping IE - a must-read recap of all IE's woes! http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/25/sidestepping/index.php Let¹s take a look at some of Internet Explorer for Windows¹ biggest CSS deficiencies, and how you can use MOSe techniques or just plain old hacks to get around these problems.

Re: [WSG] re: just joined WSG

Hi Neerav, Welcome to the group. How late? Depends on what part of the meeting. The official end is around 9pm, but some members have been known to continue the "meeting" in the pub afterwards till the early hours. Russ > Hope to meet Sydney members at the next meeting, how late do they > usua

Re: [WSG] IE6 and 3 pixel out

Haven't looked but it sounds like the 3 pixel text jog: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html Apparently, you can also fix this problem by setting the floated item to "display: inline" Russ > Hello folks, > > I have a fully valid XHTML transitional page that performs per

Re: [WSG] Debrief and thanks to Russ & Peter

JG, The gremlin is me, not the WSG system. A blackout last night reset my machine's date and time to 1970 - didn't realise till after I sent it. Gotta love macs. :) Russ > > Gremlins in the works or what chaps? > > Check the date on this original message below. > Regards, JG > > >> Date: >

Re: [WSG] Debrief and thanks to Russ & Peter

> Tonight was my first WSG meeting and I'd just like to say a big thanks to > Russ and Peter for organising such a great event. The thanks go entirely to Ben, who organised this WSG event - including co-ordinating three user groups - no easy task! > > Russ: your talk was great and although I tho

[WSG] A few links for reading...

http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2004/02/icapture_see_yo.html iCapture is a great tool for Windows-based web developers who don't have access to a Mac. Just enter a URL and wait 30 seconds to see a screenshot of that URL as seen in Safari (thanks to Alan Palmer for the link). http://www.9rules.com/wh

Re: [WSG] IE bug

Michael, Haven't looked but it may be a simple Win/IE6 carriage return bug. It seems that Win/IE is the only browser that renders carriage returns or line feeds as whitespace directly before a closing containing element: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/mystery/ Two things to try if this

[WSG] Upcoming WSG meetings reminder

Just a quick reminder about two upcoming WSG meetings: SYDNEY WSG MEETING Monday 23 February, 2004 Star City, Darling Harbour, Sydney http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event6.cfm Special guest - Sean Corfield (Macromedia standards guru) MELBOURNE WSG MEETING Monday 08 March, 2004 Student Union Meet

Re: [WSG] Mozilla problem

*** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433 980 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxdesign.c

Re: [WSG] Padding/Margin in Opera

Hi Jaime, In future, please send a link to your screenshots rather than attach them. Thanks Russ > I am converting my entire site from table to css layout. SO far so good until > this page! > > IE6, NS7 and Mozilla Phoenix till Firebird shows ok except for Opera. > > Attached are the screensh

Re: [WSG] Benefits or not of @import style sheets

Hi Jackie - read this earlier post: http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg00841.html Russ > Afternoon all... > > Can someone please explain to me the benefits of the @import thing or point me > in the right direction to see why i should use it please. > > > > Jackie Reid

Re: [WSG] Image MAP Not Working In FireFox...

Ooops. My apologies for scaring you :) Russ > Hey Russ, > > Sorry you got the links the wrong way round... > > www.australianliquidators.com is the > old website... * The discussion list for http://web

Re: [WSG] Image MAP Not Working In FireFox...

Hi Chris, The top image map works fine on the mac version of Firefox. However, the page is not valid. No doctype, no character set, attribute are not quoted, amperands not escaped: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.australianliquidators.com/ Thanks Russ > Hey Everyone, > > I am desi

Re: [WSG] IE 5 position problems

A picture tells a thousand words: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=44938 :) Russ > Thanks in anticipation ­ I managed to get it working across all my target > windows browsers. Now to move on to the mac ­ anyone want to have a look in a > few Mac browsers and tell me the bad news? Go

[WSG] Some links for light reading...

1. Knowing too much What I¹m talking about is the increasing need for web developers to know, and be good at, widely different things. Common skill requirements include graphic design, database development, JavaScript, HTML ,CSS ,XML , information architechture, usability, accessibility, writing, t

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

James, Here is some info on ideal line length: "The ideal line length for text layout is based on the the physiology of the human eye... At normal reading distance the arc of the visual field is only a few inches - about the width of a well-designed column of text, or about 12 words per line. " ht

Re: [WSG] Getting to the bottom of things

Hi Robert, What you need to do is set the container (in your case the header div) to "position: relative", and then "subscript" to "position: absolute" - and make it sit in the bottom right edge of the container. Like this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/moser.htm No matter how it is scaled

[WSG]

Apologies if you tried to post to WSG mail list in the last hour or so. We had technical difficulties with both the site and mail server so no mail was getting through. All is now fixed so post away! Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http

re: [WSG] "Dodging CSS Hacks" Tutorial

Replace padding: 1em 0; with padding: 0 1em; :) Original Message: >From: "russ weakley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: re: [WSG] "Dodging CSS Hacks" Tutorial >Date: Fri 13 Feb 2004 07:56:24 +1100 >Hi Ryan, >Excelle

re: [WSG] "Dodging CSS Hacks" Tutorial

Hi Ryan, Excellent article! Can I suggest a couple of small points: Within the section "Method One: Don't use padding and borders", this seems a bit of a sweeping statement : "Please note, your code WILL be more lengthy" There are times when this method is much longer in CSS code and other times

Re: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

Well done to Johan, Cameron and Andy for getting it up and running! Andy has written more here: http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000154.html Russ > > If you remember Cameron (bloo man) posting something recently about > starting a "standards" awards, or even if you dont: > > http://www.we

Re: [WSG] Can anyone see what's wrong here?

Many places that have them but here is one from a WSG member: http://jessey.net/simon/articles/009.html > > Thanks Robert, I'll have a look at that and see. > > As to the Doctype, I have to admit to being confused. I cut and pasted that > from the W3C site, and it validates.Is there a site

[WSG] Some links for light reading (mainly accessibility)...

Dracos - Accessibility "A recent hobby of mine has been to take an inaccessible website and produce a more accessible version that if necessary fetches information from the original site to keep up to date." http://www.dracos.co.uk/web/accessibility/ RNIB - Web Accessibility centre - a good place

[WSG] Top businesses ignore accessibility

"A survey of 100 top companies has found that they are largely failing in their moral and legal duty to make their websites accessible to those using assistive devices, such as screenreaders and Braille displays. http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3913 However, there is some good n

Re: [WSG] Ok - Stupid Question

Flemming is correct, but you may need an additional step, to un-center (is that a word?) the content inside this container. There is a full explanation here - "CSS Centering - fun for all! ": http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/center/ Russ > > Note that this won't work i IE 5.x > > Here

Re: [WSG] Traitor unmasked!

Tel: 9956 6388 > Mob: 0410 458 201 > Fax: 9956 8433 > http://www.gruden.com <http://www.gruden.com/> > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ***** Thanks Russ ---

Re: [WSG] A float thing I don't understand

Peter, If I understand you correctly, a quick test shows that all standards compliant browsers except for MacIE5.2 will flow around and under the floated item: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=43373 This can be fixed by removing the div around the content - is it needed? Russ >

Re: [WSG] Special Sydney WSG Meeting!

ad in to the MXDU 2004 conference, the special joint Web > Standards Group, Macromedia User Group and Cold Fusion User Group > Meeting is an event you will not want to miss. > > Russ Weakley of Max Design will deliver a web standards presentation on > the practical benefits to your visi

[WSG] Some links...

W3C's CSS validator is broken at present it seems: http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0204b.shtml http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/05/css_validati/ http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/02/05/bebad.html http://www.saila.com/columns/lcky/index.shtml?2004_02_01_archive.shtml#lcky2 00402051411 Simple

Re: [WSG] Browser / OS combo irregularity

Veine, Ryan's mentioned a few good arguments against image maps - maintenance and load time. I think there is a far bigger issue that was touched on but not explored - accessibility. Many people assume that accessibility means blind users with screen readers. However, accessibility is about mak

[WSG] Some more links...

CSS from the Ground up - excellent, simple solid info: http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/basics/index.html Dave Shea writes about the browsers he intends to support this year: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/02/browser_supp/ Interview with Ben Goodger, Firebird Developer (interesting timin

[WSG] AOL in full CSS

AOL is now full CSS http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000149.html "Like most big site makeovers, the first thing people notice are the sites problems. In the case of AOL, the site doesn¹t validate, a lot of the text is image based, the text is a little small and overlaps its containers when re

[WSG] More links for light reading...

1. Tantek (inventor of the Tantek hack) is doing an interesting exercise - restyle his blog every few days with the same layuot as some of the top 100 blogs, but with web standards. "Exclusive use of CSS for presentation. No table/gif/font layouts (unlike many of the top 100)." http://tantek.com/l

Re: [WSG] Shorthand for Borders?

Well... When I'm wrong I'm really wrong. It appears to be well supported on recent standards compliant browsers: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=42233 Apologies Lindsay! Moral for me: check before posting an answer! Russ :( > I was wrong! > > "The 'border-color' property can have

Re: [WSG] Shorthand for Borders?

> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ********* Thanks Russ --- Russ W

Re: [WSG] Shorthand for Borders?

Ummm... Lindsay... >From my understanding (haven't got time to check at present) there is no shorthand for border-color, so you would still have to specify separate border-top-color, border-right-color, border-left-color and border-bottom-color values. This means you end up with more declarations

Re: [WSG] Delimiting columns in a 3column fluid layout

gt; > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > ********* Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Desig

Re: [WSG] newbie discovers absolute positioning

Peter, "position: absolute" is a two edged sword. It allows you to position an element exactly where you want (within a relatively positioned item in your case), but it has downsides in certain circumstances. The biggest downside is that absolutely positioned items are completely removed from the

Re: [WSG] What Causes "Selection" Problems In IE.

Ok, let me refine my earlier sweeping statement :) In all of the IE's you can double and triple click. In IE6 only, there are drag-selection issues with absolutely positioned items. In IE5 and 5.5, you can drag-select like any other browser - you can start selecting from inside the box or outsid

Re: [WSG] What Causes "Selection" Problems In IE.

Here is a test page to show you. Check it with Win/IE6: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/try-and-highlight-me.htm You can't select the text. Another "gotta-love-ie" thing :) Russ > "position: absolute" > > That is the culprit - makes text selection impossible in IE > Russ > > > >> Hey E

Re: [WSG] What Causes "Selection" Problems In IE.

"position: absolute" That is the culprit - makes text selection impossible in IE Russ > Hey Everyone, > > Long time since I last wrote to the group! > > > > I was just developing a new website, and I have been having that very annoying > problem in IE ­ where the text, wont be selectable li

Re: [WSG] Fun with CSS!

Cameron! This is truly amazing. Right up there with CSS Pencils and the CSS House - strange but amazing uses of CSS and XHTML. Russ > Then have a game of SSCrabble -- the fun way to pass > the time with Web Standards! :o] > > http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/27/ > **

[WSG] A few quick links...

A strangely unstyled page, but some excellent concise info on accessibility (via Mark Stanton): http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/accessibility.htm l Daily Standards - dedicated to recognizing sites that have been lovingly crafted with web standards and the future in mind:

Re: [WSG] Definition lists -- mid-weekly challenge

Looks like you have cracked your version of the DL - looks fine on Safari. Yes, this is the right place to ask this sort of question. It is closely tied to semantic use of elements and css etc (which is part of web standards) - even if only for experimenting... If you mean is the WSG "superior to

Re: [WSG] printer specific pages

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ >From the god of CSS himself - Eric :) > > Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial for making printer > specific pages on CSS sites? > Thanks > Peter * The discussion list for http://webst

Re: [WSG] Real world use of standards

Bradley, First of all, this is not off-topic at all. In fact, I reckon it's the most important issue facing developers/designers on this list. Here are some comments based on Peter's and my experience.. Take or leave as you wish. :) CLIENTS We always sit down with our clients and discuss (amongs

Re: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Cool! Be good to see a version of the entire calendar. :) Follows on from your great mimicking magazines demo: http://standardice.com/experimental/magazines.html Russ > > Hi all, I throw together a simple "calendar" that highlights each day > on :hover, hope you find it intresting (given the ti

Re: [WSG] Image Gallery alternative

meaning or incorrect meaning if the CSS is not present. :) Russ > > I was searching the web for a good way to do a thumbnail gallery and > came across the discussion on this list between Russ Weakley and Justin > French. I came up with this alternative to the ways that they wrote > abo

[WSG] Some links for whenever...

Andy Budd - some CSS sites: http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000146.html Doug Bowman - the IE factor: http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html Dave Shea - developing in standards browsers before IE: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/01/27/notes_from_a/#testing Jeff Crof

[WSG] Definition lists - misused or misunderstood

Apologies to those who are over the definition list debate... Definition lists - misused or misunderstood? "What are definition lists? When are they appropriate? And how to style them to look like tables, image galleries, calendar of events and more" http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/defini

Re: [WSG] list-style-types

James, Short answer - no. I did a quick test of this before my original reply. You can apply padding or relative positioning to the state but different browsers do different things. Some move the text and not the bullet, while others move the bullet and text. So, it would be hard to tweak the co

Re: [WSG] list-style-types

Peter, The problem is that you are dealing with browsers individual interpretation of how to render lists - in particular list bullets. Each browser decides how they will render lists via their default style sheet (based on something like this - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/sample.html). Unfortun

Re: [WSG] Image Replacement Methods

A bit of url hacking gets you there: http://hinterlands.com.au/testing/css_image_replacement.html Looks great, BTW! Russ > > Hey Chris > > Can you double check that URL - looks broken. > > Cheers > > Mark * The discussion list for http://w

Re: [WSG] Some light reading...

; Thanks again for your kind answers, > > Martin E. > http://free.hostdepartment.com/f/fnbeta/ > >> - Original Message - >> From: russ weakley <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Web Standards Group <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Sunday,

Re: [WSG] Some light reading...

Ummm... I think that was supposed to be an offlist reply. Welcome to the list Randall :) Russ > > Hi Rusty * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Some light reading...

Web power tools: "Sometimes to be efficient at building web sites you need to have a variety of tools at hand to help speed up the process." http://www.nickfinck.com/presentations/devgroup/webtools/ There Are Only Tradeoffs "The state of web design in 2004 is all about tradeoffs: Liquid vs. fixed

Re: [WSG] XHTML: Labels, Image Maps, and Flash

Access keys (although they are great) have a bad name because they are so poorly supported by certain browsers (not IE this time). Also, there is no international access key standard - at least not that I am aware of. This means that users who come to your site have to discover what your access key

[WSG] Some links for Friday afternoon...

The Business Case for Web Accessibility (Excellent short article on web accessibility by Andy Budd): http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000143.html Interview with Dave Shea (although it is more about him as a person, there are some interesting comments about influences and web standards): http:

Re: [WSG] more usable forms

Hugh, This sort of feedback would be worth passing on to Simon Willison too! I'm sure he would like to know which browsers are not supporting it. You can email Simon directly or add a comment under his blog entry on the subject: http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2004/01/23/moreUsableForms#comments

Re: [WSG] ems for font sizes? (was "Absolute positioned DIVs IE bug?")

The reality is you can use either perecents or ems to get the same affect, but percents seem to be the preferred option (at least below 1em): "A word of caution concerning IE. Be careful using ems. The most recent versions of IE for Windows tend to flummox text with a font-size less than 1em ("0.5

Re: [WSG] URL Encoded

This thread is now closed! Take it offlist if you wish to continue! Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] Float tips

gt; > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * Thanks Russ ---

Re: [WSG] setting up a PX with old browsers

Hi Nick, I have Mac and Windows machines in front of me at all times for testing. Browsers include: Mac: saf1, camino.7, ie5, moz1.4, n7, nn4, op6 (7 total) Win: ie5, ie5.5, ie6, n7, nn4, op7, moz1.4 (7 total) I also use BrowserCam as a backup throughout most testing. I think both options are gr

[WSG] More standards/CSS links...

CSS too tips: http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html Simple quiz - image floats: http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2004/01/02/simplequiz_part_xi_image_float ing.html A Standard for Site Organization (via brainstormsandraves.com) http://www.theobvious.com/archive/1998/11/02.html StrongBad -

Re: [WSG]

> > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > ***** > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [WSG] Print Media

ll remember > Teach me and I will learn > > >> -Original Message- >> From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 6:24 PM >> To: Web Standards Group >> Subject: Re: [WSG] Print Media >> >> >> Yep, just set all con

Re: [WSG] Print Media

Yep, just set all containers or elements that you don¹t need to "display: none;" on the print CSS only. You can take virtually everything off the page except the forms, if you want... Russ > With a print media style sheet is it like possible to say "hide everything but > this one ID"? > Example;

[WSG] A few links for the week...

CSS Hacks and Filters http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html A pencil image made out of CSS http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php Common XHTML Validation Errors http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html Validation and error handling - from a b

Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

As Miles said, this is slightly off-topic, even though interesting! How about email Miles off-list with responses, and then Miles can do a recap for all of us on-list (or via his blog?) in a few days time Might be worth letting Miles know if you are happy for your age to be public! Russ >

[WSG] Semi-direct contact with the IE development team?

You may have already seen this blog entry about the Internet Explorer development team. "It's not every day that you get invited out to lunch by the guy who runs the team that makes software that hundreds of millions of people use. ... So, the door is open. What do you want from the Internet Explo

Re: [WSG] QA practices

England, Bristol. > --- > > > > > This email has been independently scanned for viruses and any virus detected > has been removed using McAfee anti-virus software > > ********* > The

Re: [WSG] re: Sarari CSS

Hi Vaska, Are you talking about a Safari browser support chart? Like this: http://www.macedition.com/cb/resources/macbrowsercsssupport.html Russ > > Hi all, > > I actually hate to ask this, but awhile back I found a resource that > had all the possible (both currently supported and not) CSS at

Re: [WSG] ordered list - accessibility

Again, completely agree, Gary. There is another reason why tabular data is more beneficial if marked up using tables - accessibility! When a blind user comes to a table, they cannot *see* it as one unit, so they need ways of tying columns and rows together. You can do this with tables, you cannot

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