Re: [WSG] HTML5 offline storage question

2010-08-08 Thread Breton Slivka
The iPhone has a 5mb upper limit per page. I think the ipad's limit is 10mb but I am not sure. So in other words, no. -Breton On 09/08/2010, at 2:55 PM, Andrew Harris and...@woowoowoo.com wrote: Hi all, I'm asking around the traps on a question which has come up at work. We want to

[WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
I have a stripped down example of it here. The bug only occurs in IE 7, and possibly ie6, and it occurs in IE8 running in compatibility mode. I cannot be sure whether it happens in IE8 in IE8 mode or not. (MS have made the compatibility mode interface so bloody complex I can't figure out whether

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joseph Taylor j...@sitesbyjoe.com wrote: I took a look at your source code - there are a whole bunch of issues beginning with oddities in your HTML - things like: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
I see I have still not conviced you of the weirdness of this bug. I've updated my version to have a 1px border, and more items in the list, which are NOT covered by the P element. None of them are clickable, disconfirming your conclusions. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Kepler Gelotte

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document: http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests that it should be in quirks mode? for comparison, here's a typical html 4.0 strict doctype: http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest1.htm I

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
So you think that there's an invisible part to the paragraph that is not outlined by the border? Kind of makes the border 1px approach to development kind of useless in IE in the face of behavior like this, don't you think? But I still don't think this idea quite matches up. In the broken version,

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Breton Slivka
To counter my point and support yours though, setting a width on the P tag also makes the elements clickable. Which does seem to suggest that the P tag extends vertically down further than its border suggests it does. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Breton Slivka z...@zenpsycho.com wrote: So you

Re: [WSG] Another Question about JavaScript.

2008-11-14 Thread Breton Slivka
if you have javascript related questions/talk, you can try comp.lang.javascript. Here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/topics?pli=1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Brett Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to ask another question about JavaScript, but I need help

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Breton Slivka
JScript was originally created as an exact reverse engineering of Javascript (including the mistakes), so that IE could read pages with javascript on them. This was of course, during the browser wars when they were competing for features. Jscript has fallen a bit behind Javascript by now, so there

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread Breton Slivka
It is my understanding that the bulk of those OOP design patterns are useful to get around the limitations of static languages like C++ and Java, that don't allow you to arbitrarily add/remove properties from instances, change the type of a value, or allow higher order functions (functions that

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread Breton Slivka
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Brett Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. But, one final question. Was the first ever implementation of JavaScript designed to be object-oriented, object-based, or prototype-based? Thank you all. Here is Brenden Eich, Javascript's creator, pontificating

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread Breton Slivka
The term Javascript is indeed owned by Sun. The implementation of Ecmascript in IE is called JScript, not Javascript, so it doesn't infringe the trademark (technically, but it's similar enough that people can still easily think that IE calls it Javascript) On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Brett

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-26 Thread Breton Slivka
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke, Discrediting c++ has nothing to do with the question Is JavaScript object-orientated?. With that, and in closing, I would like to point out that my comments were based on the actual question - asking if

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-26 Thread Breton Slivka
or not. Or, if you have not changed the topic, you appear to be assuming that everyone is in agreement that classes are a required attribute of OOP. This is arbitrary and nonsensical. Thanks, Anthony. Breton Slivka wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-26 Thread Breton Slivka
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Lets all just agree then, that the first insulin is simply the best, so no further development in this area is needed. I am going to link you to two more resources. If you feel that the first ever implementation

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-26 Thread Breton Slivka
I am providing to attempt to help you understand (as I gather you would not be reading any references I have provided, which conflict with your argument anyway). Thanks, Anthony. Breton Slivka wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Lets

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread Breton Slivka
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Nancy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit off topic, but not totally: are there any free good online tutorials (best practices and/or standards based) to help me learn to write javascript? Thanks, Nancy This is the best javascript lesson book online

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-23 Thread Breton Slivka
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 'superset' of ECMA3 which is not fully compliant. Right... I think you're confused. Maybe you you're thinking of the w3c dom- Which is a seperate standard and topic from javascript/ecmascript. All implementations of

Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-19 Thread Breton Slivka
But on the other side, I'm not sure how many people use add ons like no flash or no script and there's no way to find out. Cheers, Johan Yes, there IS a way to find out: Compare server logs with which people actually executed the analytics script. I just haven't seen any implementations of

Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-19 Thread Breton Slivka
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But on the other side, I'm not sure how many people use add ons like no flash or no script and there's no way to find out. Cheers, Johan Yes, there IS a way to find out: Compare server logs with which people actually

Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-16 Thread Breton Slivka
Read the story on that page carefully. What has happened is that flash 10 has increased restrictions over what features within the flash plugin can be invoked via javascript. This only applies to one specific feature (file uploads), and effects virtually no other flash features. It does not effect

Re: [WSG] contentEditable

2008-09-26 Thread Breton Slivka
I don't mind so much about the javascript thing myself, my problem is that contentEditable areas don't generate onChange events like form elements do, so they are very difficult to script properly On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this is an in-house

Re: [WSG] Best format for accessible equations

2008-09-21 Thread Breton Slivka
Might I suggest quite simply, that in the alt attribute, you write in english, basically what you would say if you were to read the mathematical expression out loud? This has the best chance of being converted into something comprehensible by a screen reader. I am assuming of course that screen

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Breton Slivka
jQuery is really good because, unlike some other frameworks, it doesn't lock you into its little world. You're still coding in javascript, and jQuery is just a really handy set of functions to help you out with just the really frustrating parts. It's really important to use a framework nowadays

Re: [WSG] Chrome JavaScript features - not speed

2008-09-05 Thread Breton Slivka
Just playing around in the console.. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Concerning Chrome, I have some unanswered questions about V8. Exactly what JavaScript features does it support? (This is NOT a question about it's speed.) The release statememt simply

Re: [WSG] Code for Firefox, hack for IE

2008-09-02 Thread Breton Slivka
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM, David McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, For a while now, I've been operating on the principle Code for Firefox, hack for IE. That is, writing CSS for the most standards-compliant browser, and then making adjustments for non-standard behaviour. I said

Re: [WSG] Javascript to change pages web standards question

2008-07-22 Thread Breton Slivka
Though really I'm not sure why you need javascript at all for this particular application. It would be much easier to just ditch the javascript, and code straight standards compliance. You would lose nothing, since the javascript you're proposing adds nothing. (unless I'm misunderstanding, you're

Re: [WSG] Javascript to change pages web standards question

2008-07-22 Thread Breton Slivka
Oops, I missed the bit about the form element. In that case, everything I just said, except add a Submit button to your original form element, and an action set to the path of your php script, and the method set to get, the name of your paging element set to match the name of the parameter that

Re: [WSG] [at]font-face confusion

2008-07-14 Thread Breton Slivka
The @font-face rule does appear in CSS 2.0, but not in 2.1. CSS 2.1 is a revision of CSS 2.0 made in response to a lack of implementation of certain features in CSS 2.0, so 2.1 closer resembles what is implemented. (however still plenty in 2.1 that is not perfectly implemented) @font-face

Re: [WSG] [at]font-face confusion

2008-07-14 Thread Breton Slivka
such as SIFR. (google it) On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The @font-face rule does appear in CSS 2.0, but not in 2.1. CSS 2.1 is a revision of CSS 2.0 made in response to a lack of implementation of certain features in CSS 2.0, so 2.1 closer resembles what

Re: [WSG] MA in web development

2008-06-13 Thread Breton Slivka
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Marius Milcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HCI, Databases, Dynamic Programming, (X)HTML, CSS, Usability, Design Methodologies etc. and, as an entry requirement, that this knowledge come from a relevant computing degree. M I know that is how universities

Re: [WSG] Flash on top of Flash

2008-02-29 Thread Breton Slivka
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Anthony Milner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have two flash files - 1 contains a flash menu the other contains an animation. We are trying to position them on top of each other... I don't know, I might be mistaken, but given that this is the web standards

Re: [WSG] re: generate data

2008-02-24 Thread Breton Slivka
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Accessibility, though in a sense is trivially easy once you know it That would not even be true if it was possible to 'know it', which it isn't. Accessibility isn't just a bunch of facts that you have to learn, and it's

Re: [WSG] re: generate data

2008-02-23 Thread Breton Slivka
I don't really feel like participating in the dramatic part of this- But I can answer some of the questions about javascript. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:53 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm more of a designer than a developer. my knowledge of javascript is limited. i am currently

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

2008-02-12 Thread Breton Slivka
It should be made clear that there really is no such thing as Client Side Validation. What we are talking about here is client side form assistance. The goal of validation is to make 100% sure that the data you are recieving is of the correct type, and contains no extraneous data or security

Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-17 Thread Breton Slivka
Microsoft is and has undoubtedly used the coercive power of their market dominance to interfere with OTHER businesses. What you are presenting here is a double standard. You are saying that governments (whose accountability is to the benefit of the public at large) should not be allowed to

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Breton Slivka
On Nov 28, 2007 12:14 AM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 13:50 Web Standards Group wrote: On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing In summary, then, does anyone

Re: [WSG] Firefox is a pushover

2007-11-22 Thread Breton Slivka
It's a bit pedantic, but it's actually IE that has this wrong. Since Firefox's ecmascript implementation is the basis for the ecmascript standard- any deviation from firefox that IE exhibits is by definition breaking the standard. Cute eh? On Nov 22, 2007 10:12 AM, Karl Lurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Breton Slivka
Javascript is a big subject, and generally can't be summarized or simplified sensibly unless there's some particular aspect of it that you're especially interested in. Are you looking for something like a quick overview of the language itself, or perhaps some tutorial for getting a particular task

Re: [WSG] First Ajax problem

2007-11-01 Thread Breton Slivka
You may also be running into the same domain policy, On 11/2/07, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/1/07, Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange to be answering my own post but I have done some more testing. I have verified the PHP page that Ajax calls works

Re: [WSG] javascript help

2007-10-31 Thread Breton Slivka
Do you have any specific questions, or do you just want us to do your homework for you? -Breton. On 11/1/07, Alexander Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I have some questions for an assignment that I can't figure out. If anyone could be of assistance that would be much appreciated.

Re: [WSG] Opera for Nintendo Wii and CSS

2007-10-25 Thread Breton Slivka
Opera has the best support for handheld and projection stylesheets of any of the major browsers, and this is a fact which they are most proud of. I don't know about SVG, but you can test, because opera desktop has a mode you can activate in which it simulates opera mini. Also, since it's a java

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-22 Thread Breton Slivka
Would you want the mail templates to use standards and seperation of concerns? Last time I looked, it was well nigh impossible to get an email that was standards based AND rendered properly in virtually *any* email client. Im sure they could have made the templates standards based, in which case,

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-22 Thread Breton Slivka
and my point was: Apple isn't advertising the templates as being only viewable in Apple mail, it's advertising them as being viewable in *any* mail client. This implies that they do not have seperation of concerns, because there's no standard of support for that.

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-22 Thread Breton Slivka
Apologies- I didn't mean my original post as a direct response to patrick, merely a response to the thread. On 10/23/07, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and my point was: Apple isn't advertising the templates as being only viewable in Apple mail, it's advertising them as being viewable

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-22 Thread Breton Slivka
I'm not entirely sure. The HTML/plain text announcements we send out are standards-based with one exception - we embed the CSS in the body section. These mails display perfectly in Outlook, OE, Windows Mail, Apple Mail, and Thunderbird. The problem with Outlook, I believe, is more to do with

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Breton Slivka
These are some of the worst analogies I've ever seen. The target website is not a work of art, it's not a mountain, it's not a car, it's not a drive up ATM, it's not a building. Not to mention the slippery slopes, like Well if they force Target to fix their website, next they'll be forcing it on

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Breton Slivka
On 10/4/07, Chris Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of ' logical fallacy' If you have an argument, make it. Don't assume that just because you think you're clever and right, that everyone else automatically will too. On 10/4/07, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Breton Slivka
So you reckon that businesses should have all the rights of a person, but none of the responsibilities? On 10/4/07, Jim Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Chris on this one. Speaking only of businesses int he United States, no government entity should be telling a private business

Re: [WSG] Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash With Jaws

2007-09-27 Thread Breton Slivka
with Jaws? I would say yes. Would it be easy to navigate, enjoyable and worth the time? I don't think so. On 9/26/07, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might sound silly, but here it is anyway: Flash can do more than just graphics- You can also play sounds and manipulate

Re: [WSG] Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash With Jaws

2007-09-26 Thread Breton Slivka
This might sound silly, but here it is anyway: Flash can do more than just graphics- You can also play sounds and manipulate them, to a certain extent with code. I've always wondered what the possibilities would be if someone applied themselves to making not just a website which is merely

Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats

2007-08-26 Thread Breton Slivka
Hey Paul, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by defining microformats as an xml namespace, but I do know that the microformats community uses the x2v stylesheets as the reference implementation for many microformats, including hcalendar and hcard. http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/ That's about as

Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats

2007-08-26 Thread Breton Slivka
One more thing: the microformats mailing list http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss/ Is just as friendly and open as this one, just as easy to join, but has the added advantage that it's full of experts on microformats. -Breton

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-12 Thread Breton Slivka
On 7/12/07, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but that's still graphic design of the appearance of Websites, NOT Website Design. No, it's Graphic Design, Not Graphic Design of the Appearance of Websites. Qualifying it in such a way confuses matters, and is terribly innaccurate.

Re: [WSG] Making Accessible Flash

2007-07-12 Thread Breton Slivka
There's two approaches, one is to use the Hixie style flash embedding, and include your text/html content nested inside the inner object element. This content is visible to text browsers and google. This is demonstrable by searching for the string: FAIL (the browser should render some flash

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-12 Thread Breton Slivka
This issue really pushes my buttons, I will admit. I had my rant (my initial post), and I naively believed that would be pretty much the end of it. I forgot that I push buttons when I'm ranting. I've even provided an out in my last post inviting people to continue this conversation off list. That

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Breton Slivka
On 7/12/07, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that this will necessarily address Marvin's issues, but I just couldn't let it go by :-) First, lets understand the different aspects of web development. 1) Web Design - This involves understanding colors, extensive knowledge in

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Breton Slivka
On 7/12/07, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , you are wrong about graphic design. ..but seriously, I have *never* seen an ad for a Graphic Designer (or worse, mislabeled Web Designer) that looked for anything but Photoshop/Illustrator, possibly Flash, proficiency. Nothing about

Re: [WSG] Keeping state of behaviors

2007-06-07 Thread Breton Slivka
This is quite useful to me. Though I don't quite understand how it works. Is the iframe important to the functioning? Is there a way to do the same thing, but make the state bookmarkable? On 6/8/07, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put this together, but I'm not sure it could be

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Breton Slivka
Tell that to this search engine: http://kitchen.technorati.com/search/ On 21/05/2007, at 9:31 PM, Rob Kirton wrote: More precisely, the use of id and class can only add semantic value to developers or to those who have to maintain the site. They have no bearing on real world semantics in

Re: [WSG] width of inline lists

2007-05-20 Thread Breton Slivka
you can try either inline-block, or instead of inline, float:left. This is typically the solution I usually end up using. On 20/05/2007, at 10:02 PM, Designer wrote: Has anyone got a (simple) workaround for the fact that I want to specify the width of each li in an inline list? (which is

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-17 Thread Breton Slivka
This might seem obvious, but have you considered combining them into a single image, and adding them as a single background to the OL instead? On 17/05/2007, at 7:25 PM, Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I recently had to add numerical bullet point graphics to an OL. This meant I had to add an

Re: [WSG] Windows Vista Style Buttons

2007-04-28 Thread Breton Slivka
you can do it like this: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html But you should know that this UI pattern is a usability/accessability disaster, and usually a symptom of poor content organization. I would encourage better organization in order to avoid these altogether. On

Re: [WSG] Windows Vista Style Buttons

2007-04-28 Thread Breton Slivka
a slightly degraded experience, as long as they can still use and access the site. On 28/04/2007, at 8:31 PM, Designer wrote: Breton Slivka wrote: you can do it like this: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html But you should know that this UI pattern is a usability/ accessability

Re: [WSG] commenting javascript in script tags

2007-04-26 Thread Breton Slivka
On 26/04/2007, at 5:19 PM, Andrew Harris wrote: On 4/26/07, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you explain why the script snippet has to be in the head? Will it have some some adverse effect on other pages if in a common external file? If so, why can't it be in an additional

Re: [WSG] safari debugger

2007-03-14 Thread Breton Slivka
try Safari Enhancer. It enables you to turn on the hidden debug features built into safari, among a few other settings. On 14/03/2007, at 10:17 AM, H├ęctor Lupuche wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for a way to debug in Safari, I have tried Drosera but I'm unable to install, I have not any mac

Re: [WSG] Web 2.0 Applications

2007-03-08 Thread Breton Slivka
Web 2.0 is a generalized marketing term used to describe a trend. The trend it is describing is about sites like flickr, del.icio.us, youtube, and even myspace, which utilize the network effect to let users produce the content for the website, and generate massive communities around

Re: [WSG] standards selling points

2007-03-08 Thread Breton Slivka
In my experience, it's a bad move to try and sell a client on the technology you intend to use. The more technologically unsavvy they are, the less interested they will be in what technology you are using. (Remember this is my experience). I've had better success determining what problems

Re: [WSG] Content negotiated links: why so bad?

2007-02-28 Thread Breton Slivka
On 01/03/2007, at 9:31 AM, libwebdev wrote: Hi folks, I followed a recent thread here on how people manage their links, and I made a request to our organisation's webmaster to allow MultiViews for my department's website (which I manage, and which is part of a large public