Re: [WSG] .net question-tabular data

2006-03-17 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi ben, > one more thing. > i have a big project on the horizon, i have to reformat this site with > webstandards > http://www.donegaldirect.com/ > > As you can see there is a lot of feeds and lists, > Would you consider tables for any of the conte

Re: [WSG] .net question-tabular data

2006-03-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
hi ben, one more thing. i have a big project on the horizon, i have to reformat this site with webstandards http://www.donegaldirect.com/ As you can see there is a lot of feeds and lists, Would you consider tables for any of the conten on this site? There are a lot of pages that have content th

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Ben Wong
No worries. You might find some useful articles at www.aspnetresources.com. Milan is _the_ man when it comes to ASP.NET and web standards. Agreed, Peter. ASP.NET 2.0 is a big step forward in the right direction. On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great i

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great insight. I will try to a collaborative aproach with the developer. I know that a in a previous situation with another developer we used repeaters to output standards code, i would like to be able to stick css possitioning into a form repeater for him. im not ev

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Goddard
the best of luck in sorting out this issue.   All the best   Peter Goddard   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter OtterySent: 17 March 2006 10:48To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] .net question Peter Goddard wrote: --> I would even suggest t

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Goddard
Thanks Ben ASP.NET 2.0 makes this so much easier! ATB Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Wong Sent: 17 March 2006 10:38 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question On 3/17/06, Peter Goddard <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Ottery
Peter Goddard wrote:--> I would even suggest that you--> consider picking up the basics of aspx page development, not the code,--> but the web controls that are available in .net and see if you can --> suggest how you can work more closely ...a great informative post Peter.Another vote here for the

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, Peter Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm an ASP.NET programmer, so I know. I actually have the reverse > problem. The designer I work with doesn't have the faintest idea about > standards and I'm the one cleaning out the layout tables. > > Nice one Ben! Sack the designer! > Aw

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Goddard
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Wong Sent: 16 March 2006 23:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres > one of the 1st s

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-17 Thread Peter Goddard
can be of any help please contact me off list. Peter Goddard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: 16 March 2006 22:03 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question thanks geoff, i guess thats i will have to be

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks ben, > ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing > something with css > then it goes out the window for a table, No, your not overreacting, I understanding that feeling. > > would you just use p's and h's inste

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks ben, ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing something with css then it goes out the window for a table, would you just use p's and h's instead of the definition list in the middle column body text? I dont know about using the table for the special offers

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of > the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special > offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt a table > in "site." > htt

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks geoff, i guess thats i will have to be level headed in my aproach. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Geoff Deering
kvnmcwebn wrote: hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. "we can't control database content all we can do is contain it" that was his argument. wh

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
adam wrote: Perhaps you should encourage some development of a collection of base controls for your development team? yes i will make a case for this, any suggestions for my arguments??? basically need to sell the project manager who is cool but only concerned with the bottom line. The devel

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
Rachel Yes the comments have been helpful, basically confirming my suspicions. If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Adam Burmister \(DSL AK\)
Friday, 17 March 2006 9:22 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] .net question Hi Kevin, If you have already created the html and css for the form, then the developer should have no trouble fitting your structure into the .net framework (we do it ever day here!). It sounds like h

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On 3/16/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. > > The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be > coverted into tables. > > "we can't control database content all we can do is c

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Rachel May
Hi Kevin, If you have already created the html and css for the form, then the developer should have no trouble fitting your structure into the .net framework (we do it ever day here!). It sounds like he wants to use the default pre-made controls for it? Which is unfortunately how a lot of .net d

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Darren West
I'm no .net developer however if he uses the WSYWIG to build the webform then yes this is true, however I'm sure that if he uses the editor he will be able to code the elements manually using from the story boards you have no doubt produced. Daz On 16/03/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> "we can't control database content all we can do is contain it" > > that was his argument. why cant he contain it with css. > can somebody help me educate him? Not sure how he'll take it, but showing him how the placeholders are already there for his content, through an example, might work. Aft