why don't you use that, why don't you do that...
'many roads lead to Rome!'
another 'road' for time set: JTSYNC www.dxshell.com/jtsync.html
it reads all received time differences of FTx signals via UDP of
your WSJT-X and calculates a 'median' deviation of all +/-DT and
with one click one can
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 14:34, Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> Just as an FYI, one of the programs that I wrote and posted in the same
> location as the Alltext.exe program
> allows you to sync to internet time when the internet is available or to
> manually adjust the time by user
>
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 14:34, Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> Just as an FYI, one of the programs that I wrote and posted in the same
> location as the Alltext.exe program
> allows you to sync to internet time when the internet is available or to
> manually adjust the time by user
>
And for those that advocate for the simplicity factor using WWV, your ears, and
your mouse finger is about as simple as it gets. And it works!
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 10:19:40 -0800
Mark Spencer wrote:
> Most of the time
> an initial manual sync of the computer clock while
On 3/4/21 at 3:21 PM, al...@alangroups.plus.com (Alan) wrote:
With my dongle I also get an intermittent issue with W10
seemingly forgetting the USB enumeration, and having to reset
the GPS software to find the dongle again. I still haven't got
to the bottom of that one, as it of course never
djustment within the software itself to
>>average the clocks of received stations has the potential to
>completely
>>eliminate the need for "accurate clocks" across the board. Of course,
>>this is assuming everyone using FT8 (as an example) was using WSJT or
>>
It only happens to me occasionally and is easy to rectify but certainly
puzzled me, and I suspected a faulty dongle until a web search told me it
was likely a USB enumeration issue.
I think it's probably something to do with the order of my plugging in the
rig CAT control, the GPS dongle,
On 3/4/2021 12:02 PM, Richard Larson via wsjt-devel wrote:
Another way to fudge the time with or without the internet is to use the
manual set function built into a time sync windows app like BktTimeSync.
I use this app to sync time with either the internet or GPS dongle but
should be a help
] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual
Another way to fudge the time with or without the internet is to use the
manual set function built into a time sync windows app like BktTimeSync. I use
this app to sync time with either the internet or GPS dongle but should be a
help to some
I will say I agree with the concerns expressed by Alan G0TLK about USB
enumeration. For that and other reasons I am hesitant to use additional
USB devices while engaging in portable operation or roving.
Mike W9MDB, thanks for making TimeFudge available I shall have to try that.
Thanks all and
Another way to fudge the time with or without the internet is to use the
manual set function built into a time sync windows app like BktTimeSync.
I use this app to sync time with either the internet or GPS dongle but
should be a help to some to just fudge time to make a decode possible.
Rick
wrote:
From: David Smith
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment,
automatic/manual
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
To clarify my use case and some reasoning:
1) Since WSJT is highly dependent on cloc
t;days, etc, as long as the second hand lines up with received stations.
>On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:02 AM
> wrote:
>
>
>Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:43:36 +
>From: Alan
>To: WSJT software development
>Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment,
>
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 08:47, David Smith wrote:
...
> 2) I'm not suggesting at all that WSJT modify the system clock. In fact, my
> suggestion is that WSJT leave the system clock alone, and that we add a
> feature that allows offset to the system clock.
But why are you interested in working
Mike Black and created a small program/script that will allow you to
hand adjust your time. You can find it on his QRZ page:
https://www.qrz.com/db/W9MDB
Neil, KN3ILZ
On 3/4/2021 11:51 AM, David Smith wrote:
again, clarifying the use case: Portable use, no internet.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at
You will find a Windows program and a Unix file you can compile for tweaking
the system time on my QRZ page.
I call it TimeFudge.
https://www.qrz.com/db/w9mdb
Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 12:23:30 PM CST, Mark Spencer
wrote:
A few comments regarding this topic from the
On 3/4/21 at 1:19 PM, netsyn...@gmail.com (Mark Spencer) wrote:
I have recently started to use WiFi to tether my PC to my iPhone when I
have cellular coverage (mostly to enable access to chat boards.)
Evaluating how well my PC and its software can use that connectivity to
sync its clock is on
A few comments regarding this topic from the perspective of someone who
does most of their WSJT-X operating from portable locations.
It is nice to be able to operate without needing an automated means of
keeping the computer clock synced to an external source. Most of the time
an initial manual
On 3/4/21 at 10:47 AM, dsm...@mypchelp.com (David Smith) wrote:
3) Using other devices or software to do this for you adds complexity that
isn't necessary; ntpd, chrony, GPS, all of these add new dependencies and
fiddles/adjustments that make using WSJT more complicated to use.
Also, these
"The only way around that..." --> I'd disagree.
"If you are that far off .." --> It's software. When there's will, there's
a way.
"internt time" --> Problem statement/use case is portable use without
internet access.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:17 AM Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel <
again, clarifying the use case: Portable use, no internet.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:56 AM Derek Turner via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> I find this interesting because a while ago I suggested something similar
> where the system clock could be adjusted in order to
~>-Original Message-From: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.netTo: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.netCc: g4...@yahoo.comSent: 2021-03-04 11:56:52 AM Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual
I find this interesting because a while ago I suggested someth
If I'm not mistaken
(which is entirely possible) clocks could be off by minutes, hours, days, etc,
as long as the second hand lines up with received stations.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:02 AM wrote:
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:43:36 +
From: Alan
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt
>From: David Smith
>To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment,
> automatic/manual
>Message-ID:
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>To clarify my use case and some reasoning:
>
>
offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual
To clarify my use case and some reasoning:
1) Since WSJT is highly dependent on clock accuracy, there should be a way to
either manually or automatically sync the clock to received stations.2) I'm not
suggesting at all that WSJT modify the system clock
by minutes, hours, days,
etc, as long as the second hand lines up with received stations.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:02 AM
wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:43:36 +
> From: Alan
> To: WSJT software development
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment,
&
If it's a site near the car or maybe in a building etc, then yes the dongle
works well.
However if on foot while certainly not a major issue it's one more thing to
pack/carry, and to go wrong, plus of course it uses more of the scarce
battery power.
Alan G0TLK, sent from my mobile device
On
On 3/4/21 11:43 AM, Alan wrote:
In my experience portable operation does indeed have a problem with
drifting clocks due to temperature variations, and particularly wind.
Internet connectivity may well be unavailable, so I've bought a cheap
GPS dongle that does the job just fine.
A good
In my experience portable operation does indeed have a problem with
drifting clocks due to temperature variations, and particularly wind.
Internet connectivity may well be unavailable, so I've bought a cheap GPS
dongle that does the job just fine.
I'm not sure a fixed clock adjustment will
On 3/4/21 1:53 AM, David Smith wrote:
Proposal:
Add an adjustment that allows you to manually adjust an offset to the
system clock. Being able to simply enter +/- seconds at the 100ths of a
second would be helpful, ie: "-2.3s" or "+0.9s"
Hi David and all,
If you use ntpd or chrony, you have
Hi,
Two tiered request, I think the first should be relatively easy:
Use case:
For portable stations it would be really great to not have to sync your
clock super accurately. I know there's already tolerance in WSJT, but it
couldn't hurt to be able to more closely control this within the
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