Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
Jim wrote I wonder how the audio quality compares to the one I originally vined? I vined it because of it's exceptional sound and it was a great show. The sound quality does take a drastic turn for the worse on the part that was originally thought to be filler. Sound is excellent until we get to the Yo Mama fade and then we have those few numbers in degraded sbd quality. The version of this show with the substitute Yo Mama was put together by someone else on this list just for personal preference if I remember rightly. So yes,the *Wanna Buy Some Acid* boot does include the fade out. Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Create your own customized LAUNCHcast Internet Radio station. Rate your favorite Artists, Albums, and Songs. Skip songs. Click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5ddjqC/xA5HAA/n1hLAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
I wonder how the audio quality compares to the one I originally vined? I vined it because of it's exceptional sound and it was a great show. The sound quality does take a drastic turn for the worse on the part that was originally thought to be filler. As I explained I later learned that It was actually from the same show but a different source tape. The first part was fantastic however (one of the best live FZ I've heard) except for the fade out on "yo mama". Did you say that "Wana Buy Some Acid" doesn't have the fade out? Jim L - Original Message - From: Glen Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine The good news is that I'm sending my copy of the *Do You Wanna Buy Some Acid?* boot to Bart in Polska who will copy it and reoffer to the group.Bart's a reliable trader who uses EAC so look for an offer from him in aweek or so.Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything.http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
In a message dated 9/27/04 2:45:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason I said UK was really to minimise the chance of the discs gettinglost or damaged in the mail.You know the further they're sent etc.These are the only copy I have and as my pc died the other day,I'm not in aposition to back them up.Anyway,I'll send them to you Bart if you remind me of your snail addy but ofcourse I'd like them sent back to me after you've finished with them.Best,Glen -Aaah, Bart my man.. when you get this from Glenster, keep me in mind for a copy, eh? :c) --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
In a message dated 9/27/04 5:31:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The good news is that I'm sending my copy of the *Do You Wanna Buy Some Acid?* boot to Bart in Polska who will copy it and reoffer to the group.Bart's a reliable trader who uses EAC so look for an offer from him in aweek or so. -Hooray :D --Milhouse (who enjoys the way we all work together) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: In a message dated 9/24/04 2:50:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a copy of this taken from the recently released *Wanna Buy Some Acid?* digipack boot.On my copy BHAFA is at the end of disc 1 not the start of disc 2.Also onthis version YM fades out and is not the replaced version noted in Jim'smail.The bonus *filler* cuts remain intact and are indeed not as good quality asthe rest of the show. -That's the other thing, the selection of bonus tracks seems to have changed somewhere along the line. I think the ones on my consist of a sbd recording of "Dinah-Moe Humm", the version of "Watermelon in Easter Hay" that's on MitB (was that 2/1578?) as well as the 2/3/76 "Black Napkins" and the Old Masters LP version of "Find Her Finer" (both of which also appeared on MitB). --Milhouse I'm afraid that was my doing. As it turned out the bonus tracks were actually from the same show but from a different source. The audio quality was so reduced from the sound of the first source that after I had sent the original Vine discs to Larry I began to tinker with disc 2 a bit for my own listening pleasure. The first thing I found was that "watermelon on easter hay" from the same date was on MITB. Knowing that MITB had been well remastered I replaced it with the MITB version. Perhaps due to over consumption of tities & beer that night I proceeded to alter disc 2 further in the manner reflected below. In the middle of doing so I received an email from Larry telling me that the disc 2 he had received for the vine had sync errors and was unsuitable for vining. (bad CDR media I guess? (damn Sony's)) So I got together another mailing and included both the original disc 2, my new disc 2 and the flac files for disc 2. I never did know for sure what version of disc 2 Larry sent out for the vine. I realize I may have committed a cardinal sin here altering a show and beg for leniency. It also occurs to me that some of us my be unclear about the difference between a vine and a weed or tree. It's my understanding that in a vine situation it's the original vine discs that should be passed on from person to person. The copy is what is kept for personal use. If this method is used everyone gets the same exact product. If someone goofs up and inserts a 2 second gap between songs it should only be on their own copy. In a weed however multiple copies are made and distribution goes quicker. Here is my complete text file for the show that reflects any changes I made. Disc 1:01. Inst/Band Intro 02. Dancing fool 03. Peaches en regalia 04. The torture never stops 05. Trying to grow a chin 06. City of tiny lights 07. baby snakes 08. Pound for a brown09. Chat about: "German groupie" 10. I have been in you 11. Flakes DISC 2: 01. Broken hearts are for assholes02. King kong 03. White person 04. wild love 05. yo mama (fades out) + Replaced w/Yo Mama (live, 2/15/78) ten day's befor? No fade out. filler Or was thought to be. See *06. san berdino + Replaced w/San Ber'Dino (live 1979)07. watermelon on easter hay + Replaced w/Watermelon in Easter Hay (live, 2/25/78) MITB (same show)08. dinah-moe humm (left alone)09. Black Napkins + Replaced w/Black Napkins (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan)10. + Find Her Finer (Old Masters version) It just seemed to fit ;-) Personnel:Frank Zappa, lead guitarTerry Bozzio, DrumsAdrian Belew, GuitarPatric O'Hearn, BassEd Mann, percussionTommy Mars, keyboardsPeter Wolf, keyboards The final 4 tracks are from another show/source and the quality is not as good as the rest but it was on the boot I received so I left them alone. * New informaition about the aforementioned 4 tracks from ezeytree user. The last 4 tracks IS from this show, but a less good source... 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, West Germany 90 min, SBD, A+/AIntro, Dancin' Fool, Peaches En Regalia, Torture Never Stops (q: Cat Scratch Fever), Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, Baby Snakes, Pound For A Brown, I Have Been In You, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, King Kong (incl White Person, YCDTOSA 6), Wild Love, Yo Mama 25 min, SBD, B San Ber'dino, Watermelon In Easter Hay, Dinah-Moe Humm, Black Napkins Info source: http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/77b78a.html Jim L - Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine In a message dated 9/24/04 2:50:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a copy of this taken from the recently released *Wanna Buy Some Acid?* digipack boot.On my copy BHAFA is at the end of disc 1 not the star
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
Millhouse wrote -That's the other thing, the selection of bonus tracks seems to have changed somewhere along the line. I think the ones on my consist of a sbd recording of "Dinah-Moe Humm", the version of "Watermelon in Easter Hay" that's on MitB (was that 2/1578?) as well as the 2/3/76 "Black Napkins" and the Old Masters LP version of "Find Her Finer" (both of which also appeared on MitB). The filler tracks on my copy are the inferior sbd tunes which purport to come from the same show. The sound is quite a bit worse than the main show. I have offered to send my copy to someone in the UK to burn and return and of course reoffer but so far have no takers. I offered this just to get a clean copy back circulating to the list. Someone.anyone, UK basedplease step forward. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
In a message dated 9/24/04 2:50:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a copy of this taken from the recently released *Wanna Buy Some Acid?* digipack boot.On my copy BHAFA is at the end of disc 1 not the start of disc 2.Also onthis version YM fades out and is not the replaced version noted in Jim'smail.The bonus *filler* cuts remain intact and are indeed not as good quality asthe rest of the show. -That's the other thing, the selection of bonus tracks seems to have changed somewhere along the line. I think the ones on my consist of a sbd recording of "Dinah-Moe Humm", the version of "Watermelon in Easter Hay" that's on MitB (was that 2/1578?) as well as the 2/3/76 "Black Napkins" and the Old Masters LP version of "Find Her Finer" (both of which also appeared on MitB). --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
In a message dated 9/24/04 12:49:57 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello all, I sent this to Milhouse and got it from Skip. At first I thought something was wrong with the copy I got, but once I saw it happened regularly, I thought it was built-in. I agree, it is distracting, especially on some more than others. I did not ask Skip about it. I apologize. I had been lucky to get in on some of the othre vines, I thought it might be typical to get one with some rough edges. I'm not sure of the 'lineage' of this as it was passed along; maybe there is a solution. Sorry again, Milhouse. -There's not really a need to be so apologetic about it, you did tell me about the abrupt segues before you mailed me the discs. It just turned out to be more of an annoyance than I thought it would be. It wasn't your fault. I don't know that it was anyones "fault" in particular, but.. since this is a really cool show marred only by the screwy segues, I personally would like to have another copy of it without that problem and I'm sure others would, too. Hopefully we can all figure something out. --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
In a message dated 9/23/04 11:15:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got this vine and have listened to it at least three times and did not notice any gaps. I also don't remember who sent it to me, but that's only because I'm something of a dumbass.Mark Darling in Michigan -There weren't *gaps*, per se, but (and only on the first disc on the copy I recieved) the segues are abrupt, like one or two seconds were removed from the end of each track somewhere along the line. --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
The I think the version that finally got vined didn't have the replaced version ether. That was something I did later and had just noted it in my txt file. Jim L - Original Message - From: Glen Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine I have a copy of this taken from the recently released *Wanna Buy Some Acid?* digipack boot.On my copy BHAFA is at the end of disc 1 not the start of disc 2.Also onthis version YM fades out and is not the replaced version noted in Jim'smail.The bonus *filler* cuts remain intact and are indeed not as good quality asthe rest of the show.Sadly my pc died a while back and I'm not anymore able to extract or burnanything but am happy to send my copy to someone in the UK who will burn andreturn it to me and of course reoffer to the list (Cris in IOW ?).As far as I can tell there are no flaws on my copy and certainly no edits atthe start of tracks.Contact me off list.Best,Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
You got the discs from me. I made two copies. I sent one copy to you, and the other to Skip. I don't recall any flaws, except when I initially received the discs and disc 2 wouldn't rip, or something. But Jim sent me another. Larry --- Mark Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got this vine and have listened to it at least > three times and did not > notice any gaps. I also don't remember who sent it > to me, but that's only > because I'm something of a dumbass. > > Mark Darling in Michigan > > > I think I started that one after downloading it from > easytree. There was a > problem with disc 2 and I recent it to Larry along > the original flac discs. > None of them had 2 second gaps. This is the show I > started with. > > 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, > West Germany > > Disc 1: > 01. Inst/Band Intro > 02. Dancing fool > 03. Peaches en regalia > 04. The torture never stops > 05. Trying to grow a chin > 06. City of tiny lights > 07. baby snakes > 08. Pound for a brown > 09. Chat about: "German groupie" > 10. I have been in you > 11. Flakes > DISC 2: > 01. Broken hearts are for assholes > 02. King kong > 03. White person > 04. wild love > 05. yo mama (fades out) + Replaced w/Yo Mama (live, > 2/15/78) ten day's > befor? No fade out. > > filler Or was thought to be. See * > 06. san berdino > 07. watermelon on easter hay > 08. dinah-moe humm > 09. Black Napkins > > Personnel: > Frank Zappa,lead guitar > Terry Bozzio, Drums > Adrian Belew, Guitar > Patric O'Hearn, Bass > Ed Mann,percussion > Tommy Mars, keyboards > Peter Wolf, keyboards > > The final 4 tracks are from another show/source > and the quality is not as good as the rest > but it was on the boot I received so I left them > alone. > > * New informaition about the aformentioned 4 tracks > from easytree user. > > The last 4 tracks IS from this show, but a less good > source... > > 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, > West Germany > 90 min, SBD, A+/A > Intro, Dancin' Fool, Peaches En Regalia, Torture > Never Stops (q: Cat Scratch > Fever), Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, > Baby Snakes, Pound For A > Brown, I Have Been In You, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are > For Assholes, King Kong > (incl White Person, YCDTOSA 6), Wild Love, Yo Mama > 25 min, SBD, B > San Ber'dino, Watermelon In Easter Hay, Dinah-Moe > Humm, Black Napkins > > Info source: > http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/77b78a.html > > Jim L > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply> > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:17 PM > Subject: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine > > I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but > I really wanted to > consult the group about a particular matter before > spreading this vine any > farther. > > The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the > address label, sorry I've > forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List > from) warned me in advance > that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not > continuous on the first > disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly > more on some songs) > missing at the end of each track, as if the discs > had at one point been > burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were > later edited out by the > next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On > my copy, this is only the > case on the first disc, the second one is fine. > > So, my question is, did the vine start in this > condition? Is *everyone's* > copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere > along the line. Again, I > don't want to continue distributing the disc if > there's an error that > shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal > quasi-perfectionism, I > really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is > circulating among the > people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen > to the show without > being irritated by the segues. > > So who can help me out on this one? > > --Milhouse > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
I have a copy of this taken from the recently released *Wanna Buy Some Acid ?* digipack boot. On my copy BHAFA is at the end of disc 1 not the start of disc 2.Also on this version YM fades out and is not the replaced version noted in Jim's mail. The bonus *filler* cuts remain intact and are indeed not as good quality as the rest of the show. Sadly my pc died a while back and I'm not anymore able to extract or burn anything but am happy to send my copy to someone in the UK who will burn and return it to me and of course reoffer to the list (Cris in IOW ?). As far as I can tell there are no flaws on my copy and certainly no edits at the start of tracks. Contact me off list. Best, Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
Hello all, I sent this to Milhouse and got it from Skip. At first I thought something was wrong with the copy I got, but once I saw it happened regularly, I thought it was built-in. I agree, it is distracting, especially on some more than others. I did not ask Skip about it. I apologize. I had been lucky to get in on some of the othre vines, I thought it might be typical to get one with some rough edges. I'm not sure of the 'lineage' of this as it was passed along; maybe there is a solution. Sorry again, Milhouse. Joseph - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but I really wanted to consult the group about a particular matter before spreading this vine any farther. The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the address label, sorry I've forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List from) warned me in advance that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not continuous on the first disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly more on some songs) missing at the end of each track, as if the discs had at one point been burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were later edited out by the next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On my copy, this is only the case on the first disc, the second one is fine. So, my question is, did the vine start in this condition? Is *everyone's* copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere along the line. Again, I don't want to continue distributing the disc if there's an error that shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal quasi-perfectionism, I really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is circulating among the people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen to the show without being irritated by the segues. So who can help me out on this one? --MilhouseFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine I got this vine and have listened to it at least three times and did not notice any gaps. I also don't remember who sent it to me, but that's only because I'm something of a dumbass. Mark Darling in Michigan I think I started that one after downloading it from easytree. There was a problem with disc 2 and I recent it to Larry along the original flac discs. None of them had 2 second gaps. This is the show I started with. 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, West Germany Disc 1: 01. Inst/Band Intro 02. Dancing fool 03. Peaches en regalia 04. The torture never stops 05. Trying to grow a chin 06. City of tiny lights 07. baby snakes 08. Pound for a brown 09. Chat about: "German groupie" 10. I have been in you 11. Flakes DISC 2: 01. Broken hearts are for assholes 02. King kong 03. White person 04. wild love 05. yo mama (fades out) + Replaced w/Yo Mama (live, 2/15/78) ten day's befor? No fade out. filler Or was thought to be. See * 06. san berdino 07. watermelon on easter hay 08. dinah-moe humm 09. Black Napkins Personnel: Frank Zappa, lead guitar Terry Bozzio, Drums Adrian Belew, Guitar Patric O'Hearn, Bass Ed Mann, percussion Tommy Mars, keyboards Peter Wolf, keyboards The final 4 tracks are from another show/source and the quality is not as good as the rest but it was on the boot I received so I left them alone. * New informaition about the aformentioned 4 tracks from easytree user. The last 4 tracks IS from this show, but a less good source... 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, West Germany 90 min, SBD, A+/A Intro, Dancin' Fool, Peaches En Regalia, Torture Never Stops (q: Cat Scratch Fever), Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, Baby Snakes, Pound For A Brown, I Have Been In You, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, King Kong (incl White Person, YCDTOSA 6), Wild Love, Yo Mama 25 min, SBD, B San Ber'dino, Watermelon In Easter Hay, Dinah-Moe Humm, Black Napkins Info source: http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/77b78a.html Jim L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but I really wanted to consult the group about a particular matter before spreading this vine any farther. The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the address label, sorry I've forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List from) warned me in advance that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not continuous on the first disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly more on some songs) missing at the end of each track, as if the discs had at one point been burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were later edited out by the next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On my copy, this is only the case on the first disc, the second one is fine. So, my question is, did the vine start in this condition? Is *everyone's* copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere along the line. Again, I don't want to continue distributing the disc if there's an error that shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal quasi-perfectionism, I really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is circulating among the people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen to the show without being irritated by the segues. So who can help me out on this one? --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
I think I started that one after downloading it from easytree. There was a problem with disc 2 and I recent it to Larry along the original flac discs. None of them had 2 second gaps. This is the show I started with. 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, West Germany Disc 1:01. Inst/Band Intro 02. Dancing fool 03. Peaches en regalia 04. The torture never stops 05. Trying to grow a chin 06. City of tiny lights 07. baby snakes 08. Pound for a brown09. Chat about: "German groupie" 10. I have been in you 11. Flakes DISC 2: 01. Broken hearts are for assholes02. King kong 03. White person 04. wild love 05. yo mama (fades out) + Replaced w/Yo Mama (live, 2/15/78) ten day's befor? No fade out. filler Or was thought to be. See *06. san berdino07. watermelon on easter hay08. dinah-moe humm09. Black Napkins Personnel:Frank Zappa, lead guitarTerry Bozzio, DrumsAdrian Belew, GuitarPatric O'Hearn, BassEd Mann, percussionTommy Mars, keyboardsPeter Wolf, keyboards The final 4 tracks are from another show/source and the quality is not as good as the rest but it was on the boot I received so I left them alone. * New informaition about the aformentioned 4 tracks from easytree user. The last 4 tracks IS from this show, but a less good source... 25-Feb 1978, Hemmerleinhalle, Neunkirchen am Brand, West Germany 90 min, SBD, A+/AIntro, Dancin' Fool, Peaches En Regalia, Torture Never Stops (q: Cat Scratch Fever), Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, Baby Snakes, Pound For A Brown, I Have Been In You, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, King Kong (incl White Person, YCDTOSA 6), Wild Love, Yo Mama 25 min, SBD, B San Ber'dino, Watermelon In Easter Hay, Dinah-Moe Humm, Black Napkins Info source: http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/77b78a.html Jim L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but I really wanted to consult the group about a particular matter before spreading this vine any farther. The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the address label, sorry I've forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List from) warned me in advance that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not continuous on the first disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly more on some songs) missing at the end of each track, as if the discs had at one point been burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were later edited out by the next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On my copy, this is only the case on the first disc, the second one is fine. So, my question is, did the vine start in this condition? Is *everyone's* copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere along the line. Again, I don't want to continue distributing the disc if there's an error that shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal quasi-perfectionism, I really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is circulating among the people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen to the show without being irritated by the segues. So who can help me out on this one? --MilhouseFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: {SPAM?} [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
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mine are also with this segue problem...it´s a pityLuis
-Ah, we'll get to the bottom this yet!
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Re: {SPAM?} [Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
mine are also with this segue problem... it´s a pity Luis > I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but I really wanted to > consult the group about a particular matter before spreading this vine any > farther. > > The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the address label, sorry > I've forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List from) warned me in > advance that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not continuous on > the first disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly more on some > songs) missing at the end of each track, as if the discs had at one point > been burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were later edited out > by the next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On my copy, this is > only the case on the first disc, the second one is fine. > > So, my question is, did the vine start in this condition? Is *everyone's* > copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere along the line. Again, > I don't want to continue distributing the disc if there's an error that > shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal quasi-perfectionism, I > really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is circulating among the > people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen to the show without > being irritated by the segues. > > So who can help me out on this one? > > --Milhouse > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Listen to Internet Radio! Access to your favorite Artists! Click to listen to LAUNCHcast now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Zkrq7C/GARHAA/n1hLAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] 2/25/78 West Germany vine
I got this two disc about two weeks ago I think, but I really wanted to consult the group about a particular matter before spreading this vine any farther. The person who sent me the discs (J. Lonon on the address label, sorry I've forgotten the e-mail address you post to Z-List from) warned me in advance that when he recieved the discs, the segues were not continuous on the first disc. That is, there's maybe 2 seconds (or slightly more on some songs) missing at the end of each track, as if the discs had at one point been burned with 2-second gaps between songs which were later edited out by the next person, resulting in these jarring segues. On my copy, this is only the case on the first disc, the second one is fine. So, my question is, did the vine start in this condition? Is *everyone's* copy like this? Or did something go wrong somewhere along the line. Again, I don't want to continue distributing the disc if there's an error that shouldn't be and for my own personal brand of anal quasi-perfectionism, I really want to know if a non-screwup-having copy is circulating among the people on the vine before me, so that *I* can listen to the show without being irritated by the segues. So who can help me out on this one? --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
