[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-23 Thread Joe
Mike, I honestly don't know the figures. There are several professional groups I support which lobby for the proper teaching of Science in schools, here. I haven't lived in States that are vehemently Bible-Thumping, but in my youth I have known some people who were, but not for long (did I

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Merle Lester
for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com; Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 11:26:52 PM    edgar... you

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Merle Lester
 bill..thank you..beautiful put..merle   Edgar, This phrase is meant to convey that the person, along with whatever it was he is accused of doing, also betrayed the trust of people who depended upon him. Your 'own people' don't expect you to treat them badly, whereas foreigners or

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Edgar Owen
Merle, It was sent to the Zen group by mistake because YOU mistakenly sent it to me personally and thus I had change the reply to the proper group. But I mistakenly sent to the wrong group since most of your posts are to this group not the other group. Please don't duplicate your messages to

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Edgar Owen
Joe, It's Kafkaesque usage. For one thing all those people the dictators are murdering DO NOT consider themselves their people. That's the very reason they are revolting in the first place... It's done as US and now apparently Aussie propaganda to instill a feeling that our wonderful

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Edgar Owen
merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com; Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 11:26:52 PM edgar... you had no right to send this to zen group..as it was posted

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Merle Lester
edgar..i did not send it to you personally..it went to the evo group... your computer is playing tricks on you...merle It was sent to the Zen group by mistake because YOU mistakenly sent it to me personally and thus I had change the reply to the proper group. But I mistakenly sent to the

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Merle Lester
 edgar...american are gun loving people...you busily kill each other... u.s.a. in many minds in australia see this gun culture and americans in general as bad news all round... so edgar..incorrect statement..u.s.a is on the nose...merle   Joe, It's Kafkaesque usage. For one thing all those

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread Joe
Mike, Considering how small a deal it is for me, I don't see how it can be much less consequential elsewhere; but, Thus have I heard. It's true that many people in the States are too-literal interpreters of The Book. It's shocking to me. Even my family -- and me, once -- as Catholics, were

RE: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-22 Thread uerusuboyo
br/Joe,br/br/Is it true that a majority in the States believe the earth is less than 5000 years old? I've hear the teaching of Evolution gets a rough ride in schools over there - in both religious schools _and_ government schools. Scary.br/br/Mike br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Edgar Owen
Merle, What is this dumb buzz phrase do to his own people? Is it somehow better to kill people you don't own than ones you do? It really annoys me to hear this phrase all the time on US TV like it makes someone worse than people who kill other people's people... Edgar On May 21, 2013, at

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Merle Lester
 edgar... you had no right to send this to zen group..as it was posted to the evo group...  never the less...you are forgiven  i was referring to atheism...  yes i know we are all one and the same creature : human so be it them or us  no different.. i get tired of hearing that atheists are

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Joe
Edgar, Merle, I'd say a leader of the people should be a leader for the peoples' good, and not be an assassin of them. If there's anything dumb about the phrase, perhaps it's solely in the hearing of it, not in the proper interpretation of the hearing of it. --Joe Edgar Owen edgarowen@...

Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread uerusuboyo
br/Merle,br/br/I'm one of those who don't believe in a personal god and detest being called an atheist for this lack of belief. A god who suspends the Laws of Nature for us personally is as likely as a fairy coming in the middle of the night to put money under the pillow as a reward for leaving

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Joe
Mike, A-theist is just the proper term to apply to someone who does not believe in a god, or even the possibility of a god. I personally wear the term as a neutral-grey feature of my personality. And yet I understand sympathetically where brethren and sistren come from when them embrace the

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Bill!
Edgar, This phrase is meant to convey that the person, along with whatever it was he is accused of doing, also betrayed the trust of people who depended upon him. Your 'own people' don't expect you to treat them badly, whereas foreigners or 'enemies' should be much more cautious at having

RE: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread uerusuboyo
br/Joe,br/br/The idea of a Creator God who personally intervenes on our behalf is a meta-physical and/or superstitious idea that gets more credence by having a proper-noun label for those that don't believe in said idea. That's my point about not having a label for those of us who don't believe

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more intelligent

2013-05-21 Thread Joe
Mike, I'm on board. I see your point: Why be called something for which there's no indication anyway. It's superfluous and back-handed. I'm also a Santa-denier (but not to my youngest Niece). I am a Klingon-hater! (ooh, shocking!). So I say atheism is a neutral-grey feature I wear. I