I don't think it matters (to me, anyway) whether it was deliberate or not. The
people in central and SW Afghanistan in particular have little choice, as there is
no economic alternative for them. One could just as easily say this is the free
market at work without the help of the CIA. I *do*
There's an interesting matter of interpretation here. Is while a conditional
term here, or is it merely setting up the other party's side of the covenant? And
if one party breaks the covenant, is the other party free to break it as well?
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Jim Cobabe favored us with:
Jim Cobabe wrote:
I was interested to learn that the Russians are now selling nuclear
technological knowhow. What a refreshing change for the world to buy
their nuclear plants from the Russians, instead of from the Canadians,
or the PRC. Perhaps the Russian bid was cheaper. ;-
This
This just isn't true, I'm afraid. They were *delivered* to the Security Council,
but the US still managed to get first crack at them. An excerpt from the US State
Dept. briefing:
Reeker, the spokesman for the State Department, on 10/12/02:
The U.S. government has made copies of the Iraqi weapons
Well, I've been working on it tonight/this morning because I have insomnia (how's
that for a spiritual motivator?) I got about halfway through and found a couple of
embarrassing typos along with the rest of the formatting (don't use Netscape
Composer on Word docs, at least, not Netscape 4.72).
At 14:54 12/16/2002 -0700, Gib Egroeg wrote:
George has to be better looking, because Jim is definitely smarter. But to
tell you the truth if you have seen one Cobabe you will recognize the rest.
Just happy to be here and living off what I suspect is the good name of good
o'cousin Jim.
Jim and I share a grandfather. His dad, Bill is brother to my dad, George.
We are currently in the habit of getting together once a year with our
Cobabe Cousins whom we correspond with on a CobabeCousins email list owned
by Jim.
We have a lot of cousins and if anyone should ever run into a
I was trying to suggest that the doctrine of trinity, with its idea of a
universal constant referred to as God and manifest as the three
personages, is based on a true LDS doctrine of a manifestation of a constant
standard of what is a God in infinite forms of exalted Gods. Not that the
defective
At 03:14 12/17/2002 +, Sir Chester wrote:
I was zipping along a Missouri road back in 1975 and fell off my
motorcycle. Luckily, my fall was broken by my face on the pavement or I
could've hurt myself.
So it's not motorcycles which are dangerous. It's roads. Or faces.
Even Till has
At 21:16 12/16/2002 -0600, St Paul not Minnesota wrote:
I've only been here a couple years and they
haven't thrown me out yet. grin
Notice carefully the yet
8))
Till
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at
I was trying not to let it happen, but I think you topped everyone and
surely had the last word on this.
George
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Beecroft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] New guy
-George-
Could
Boy - you lost me there - are you asking about abilities (to argue) or the
size of bullets (so as to end the argument)?
George
- Original Message -
From: Rick Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] New guy
At 09:16 PM
I get three A's.
We have been given intellectual gifts to employ. The word employ here is
very important, for it means that we must work at figuring things out, at
overcoming our natural man instincts. We may be of the fold, but we are not
sheep.
In determining the ability of a country's
Jim the Babe wrote:
John W. Redelfs wrote:
---
I have some anxiety that we may soon find out who has and does not have
nukes.
---
There were some misleading news reports on this, I think. In the
headlines last Friday. Those rotten news guys, they're always trying to
increase John's
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani owner
of a convenience store in his neck of the woods! :-) Marc, while I agree
that Pakistan is not the country to model our society after and that there
are many distinct factions operating within the government, often at odds
Shortly after we moved into our new home a year and a half ago, Dish
Network had a deal where you paid $199 for the dish and receiver, and got
basic 100 channel programming for $19/month for a year. This was a good
deal, and we took them up on it. This last summer, the price per month
went up.
Jon Spencer wrote:
---
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani
owner of a convenience store in his neck of the woods! :-)
---
Sounds like a Simpsons episode.
Come to think of it, perhaps we could draw some interesting and
instructive parallels between Homer and
NOMA is also very similar to what the 1P said in 1931 in the last official
statement on the origin of man: leave science to the scientists and religion to
the Brethren. So be careful of criticizing it just because it was written by an
agnostic.
This is probably not the time to try this
Spoiler warning
Gary: Actually, his friend was Shelob the spider.
I wouldn't call Shelob his friend. More like his master.
Gary: Actually, there are three known. The Steward of Gondor also has
one, which falls into the plot of the ensuing movies.
Are
Mark - I tried it as well on another list - it will not work. Your concept
makes too much sense for someone imbued with science to accept.
George
- Original Message -
From: Mark Gregson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION]
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Where are you Orrin Porter Rockwell, now that we need you? --JWR
There's a one-panel cartoon which sums up my weaknesses. A fellow is
saying I thought - what would Jesus do? And I tried to forgive him.
Then I thought - what would Porter Rockwell do? And I punched
Any way to get Utah by sound only cheaper? I'm trying to find out the
cheapest way to do it.
Stacy.
At 11:21 AM 12/17/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Shortly after we moved into our new home a year and a half ago, Dish
Network had a deal where you paid $199 for the dish and receiver, and got
basic 100
You should have said we are between Iraq and a hard place. Lol.
Stacy.
At 10:15 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani owner
of a convenience store in his neck of the woods! :-) Marc, while I agree
that Pakistan is not the
Stacy Smith wrote:
Yes, I like those funny jokes too.
As opposed to the jokes I usually tell.
*jeep!
--Chet
Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible.
//
At 17:53 12/17/2002 +, Sir Chester wrote:
You proceed from a false assumption. A football doesn't HAVE feathers.
Certainly not in the same respect that horses and gophers do.
Till who used to hate gopher feathers in his orange juice when he was a
little tyke
Stacy Smith wrote:
Can I call from out of state?
I did. The human answering the line after you press 2 (they were
getting more calls than their computer could handle, I guess) did ask me
if I was calling from out of state - and from where.
*jeep!
--Chet
Start by doing what's necessary,
Stacy Smith wrote:
Luckily even the other list I'm on doesn't have this guy. Not yet,
anyway. Can a person really protect herself on the internet? An
ex-boyfriend even found me on a certain list. I'm beginning to think
that
if I don't want to be found by certain people I shouldn't be
That's probably a very good guy and not the one I'm referring to. I know
of two Wrights, one I would love to see again and one I wish to forget.
Stacy.
At 09:41 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
We have a Brother Wright in our ward. He is a Special Forces sniper.
Could he help out here?
Jon
A very interesting point worth considering. We're also sending them out as
well.
Stacy.
At 09:34 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I get three A's.
We have been given intellectual gifts to employ. The word employ here is
very important, for it means that we must work at figuring things out,
No, you'll have the content -- it's just the endnotes and some of the formatting
that's messed up. Also, I spelled homoousis and homoiousis the same in Greek;
the latter should have an iota between the two omicrons. Minor stuff like that.
Jon Spencer wrote:
Bummer! I just printed it off to
A new study of Brazilians confirms what biologists have always known
(but maybe not anthropologists?): namely, that there is no genetic basis
for determining race:
Jon Spencer wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani owner
of a convenience store in his neck of the woods! :-) Marc, while I agree
that Pakistan is not the country to model our society after and that there
are many distinct factions operating within the
Doh! The character you're thinking of isn't Pakistani. He can't be, since he's
Hindu.
Ya can't hit the targets if ya can't see 'em
Jim Cobabe wrote:
Jon Spencer wrote:
---
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani
owner of a convenience store in his neck of
Mark Gregson wrote:
NOMA is also very similar to what the 1P said in 1931 in the last official
statement on the origin of man: leave science to the scientists and religion to
the Brethren. So be careful of criticizing it just because it was written by an
agnostic.
This is probably
The joke going around during Gulf War I, if I can call it that, was: what movie
has been banned by Saddam Hussein? Iraqnophobia, of course. (Arachnophobia, a
horror flick involving spiders, was in the movie theatres about that time).
Stacy Smith wrote:
You should have said we are between Iraq
Jon Spencer favored us with:
First off, this probably belongs on lds-poll. And second, if you can even
seriously entertain such ideas, it either says a Lott about you or a Lott
about the country. Of course, it could be that my not being able to
SERIOUSLY entertain such ideas may say a Lott
George Cobabe favored us with:
The problem is that the doctrine of the trinity is so convoluted we cannot
if discuss it without being subject to the same requirements of confusion
and misunderstanding.
Not much simpler is it?
I think I got it the second time around. Still, conceptually it is
Stacy Smith favored us with:
What's this other list and why not have the same screening questionnaire?
The Moroni list is for Birchers and the like. I had to set it up to keep
from driving most of my best contributors from this list. --JWR
Elmer L. Fairbank favored us with:
Even Till has taken a tumble once, from a Norton. There was this rock in
the road which he smuck amidships at 60. The rest is subject to some
pretty vivid imagining. HE thinks rocks are dangerous (not to mention
young men).
Three times in my life I've
Forwarded with permission from Ken Kyle, who is LDS and works at the
Canadian Cancer Society, as director of public issues. The first item is
a recent newspaper article, the second some background from Ken on his
involvement with this. The Church News has been in contact with him
about possibly
Stacy Smith:
Any way to get Utah by sound only cheaper?
I'm trying to find out the cheapest way to do it.
___
Try www.kbyu.org -- I think they have an audio feed you could
listen to on your pc, if you really wanted to do that.
Many other radio stations in Utah also have
Marc, rather than start another political yelling match with you about the
USA and our policies, I will just say you are all screwed up and let it go
at that.
I am reminded of the old story of the Stallion and the horse fly. The fly
kept biting the horse but when it was all over the fly was
I think we can assume so, but indirectly -- by the references to criticisms of him
by the Pharisees, for hanging out with winebibbers, publicans and other
sinners. I don't imagine such meals were always sombre ;-)
John W. Redelfs wrote:
Did the Savior ever crack jokes like President Hinckley?
Marc suggests:
If one feels the specific events of the American Revolution were inspired,
one
would also have to believe that the French Revolution was inspired, since it
laid
the groundwork for the American Revolution, and the intellectuals behind the
liberalism (in the traditional sense of the
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
-Marc-
A new study of Brazilians confirms what biologists have always
known (but maybe not anthropologists?): namely, that there is
no genetic basis for determining race:
Interesting, and welcome, note of moderation from Ms. Sheena Khan, the
head of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Canada.
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021217/COSHEEMA/Comment/comment/commentColumnistsHeadline_temp/4/4/6/
--
Marc A. Schindler
Spruce
slapping forehead You're right. Sorry -- I just got my history mixed up. I guess
I must have been thinking of French intellectual influence that preceded the
revolution (ie de Tocqueville, not to mention Lafayette's military assistance).
George Cobabe wrote:
Marc suggests:
If one feels the
Jim Cobabe wrote:
Jon Spencer wrote:
---
I have come to the conclusion that Marc was cheated by the Pakistani
owner of a convenience store in his neck of the woods! :-)
---
Sounds like a Simpsons episode.
Actually, teh convenience store owner in the Simpsons is an Indian, but they
sort
Only 5 hours until LOTR II starts. Who already has their tickets?
Jon
Larry Jackson wrote:
Gary Smith:
Hm. First Tom Matkin claims to dislike LOTR, ...
___
There must be a disconnect somewhere. I know that Tom has a keen
sense of humor, and I'm sure he enjoys
More to the point, he's a *Hindu* Indian, as you can tell both from his name and
from the way his wife dresses (there was an episode when his family and the
Simpsons had dinner together). Pakistan and Bangladesh were both intended to be
part of India when India was given its independence, but Ali
I do! My sons and I have a date -- I told my students today that I
wouldn't be there tomorrow because we had an appointment that would
take about 3 hours. . .they never figured it out ;-)
val
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:00:54 -0500 Jon Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Only 5 hours until LOTR II
Marc Schindler:
This just isn't true, I'm afraid. They were *delivered* to the
Security Council, but the US still managed to get first crack
at them. An excerpt from the US State Dept. briefing: ...
___
This just is true, I'm afraid. And your excerpt begins by
saying just what
Marc A. Schindler wrote a lotta stuff I'm not even gonna try to keep up
with. Mainly, it said that tobacco companies are getting beat on in
Canada.
I hope so. I really hope so. Because in this country, the tobacco
companies are being beaten on by being sued. They raise their prices,
so
For those of you who are following the Tom Murphy affair (aka DNA and
the Lamanites), you might be interested to know that Jeff Lindsay has
recently updated his apologetics page on the topic:
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/DNA.shtml
It's not written for a professional geneticist (which is not
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