Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Mike Gerdts wrote: I suspect that making live upgrade work within a zone would be significantly easier if ZFS was a prerequisite. It looks as though the ipkg brand already has support for mounting the appropriate dataset on boot and attach. Delegated datasets can be snapshotted and cloned withi

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Mike Gerdts wrote: >> >> Any thoughts on supporting live upgrade?  That is, I would like live >> upgrade within the branded zone to work as it does for a S10 global >> zone.  I don't care about it from the upgrade standpoint, but it is a >> v

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Detlef Drewanz - sent by Nokia E71 wrote: Jerry, I am not sure if that was described in the proposal. Would it be possible to run s10 brands ontop of future s10 global zones ? No, thats not part of this proposal. Thanks, Jerry ___ zones-discuss maili

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Mike Gerdts wrote: Any thoughts on supporting live upgrade? That is, I would like live upgrade within the branded zone to work as it does for a S10 global zone. I don't care about it from the upgrade standpoint, but it is a very helpful tool for patching. Having a zfs zonepath is an acceptable

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Detlef Drewanz - sent by Nokia E71
Jerry, I am not sure if that was described in the proposal. Would it be possible to run s10 brands ontop of future s10 global zones ? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jerry Jelinek Gesendet: 12.5.'09, 13:28 > Enclosed is a first draft of a spec. for the S10 > brand which we plan to submit

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Jerry Jelinek wrote: [snip] > Zones have been part of S10 since its FCS, so in general S10 is > already zone-aware and does the right thing in most cases.  Commands > that are zone-aware will continue to work as they do today in > S10 native zones.  One set of comm

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Menno Lageman wrote: Thanks, that clears it up. Adding some text at the start of the Versioning section that newer versions of the brand will provide compatibility for older versions of the brand would help I think. Thanks, I'll add that clarification. Jerry ___

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Hernan Saltiel wrote: No, I'm talking about the Solaris migration toolkit, available in the past to certify pre-Solaris 10 binaries against the new versions. They were a couple of Perl scripts (solcat, for example). They were a binary interface certification set of scripts. They were a good point

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Menno Lageman
On 05/12/09 14:20, Jerry Jelinek wrote: It wouldn't really be multiple versions of the brand. The idea is that any enhancements to the brand module will need to continue to support all versions of S10 that are supported in the zone (i.e. S10u8 and beyond). So, there may be conditional code in t

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Hernan Saltiel
No, I'm talking about the Solaris migration toolkit, available in the past to certify pre-Solaris 10 binaries against the new versions. They were a couple of Perl scripts (solcat, for example). They were a binary interface certification set of scripts. They were a good point to start thinking in a

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Hernan Saltiel wrote: Hi! Will there be an adoption toolkit, to let the people use the S10 brand while testing it, and starting the migration process? I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking if the source code will be available before S.next is released? If so, then yes, we're

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Menno, Menno Lageman wrote: Cool stuff! A couple of questions: - it is stated that the minimum supported S10 release in a branded container is S10U8. What is the plan for migrating from S10 releases below U8? Will the update on attach feature be able to update pre-U8 systems and/or zones? O

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Hernan Saltiel
Hi! Will there be an adoption toolkit, to let the people use the S10 brand while testing it, and starting the migration process? Thanks a lot, and best regards, HeCSa. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Enclosed is a first draft of a spec. for the S10 > brand which we plan

Re: [zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Menno Lageman
On 05/12/09 13:28, Jerry Jelinek wrote: Enclosed is a first draft of a spec. for the S10 brand which we plan to submit for a PSARC inception review. Please send us any comments or questions. Thanks, Jerry Hi Jerry, Cool stuff! A couple of questions: - it is stated that the minimum support

[zones-discuss] S10 brand spec.

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Enclosed is a first draft of a spec. for the S10 brand which we plan to submit for a PSARC inception review. Please send us any comments or questions. Thanks, Jerry --- S10C: A Solaris 10 Branded Zone for Solaris.Next Gerald Jelinek, Jordan Vaughan