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Subject: OK : Zope-2_6-branch Python-2.1.3 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Mon Jan 30 21:03:07 EST
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-1-30 18:32 +:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Okay, I see: TemporaryStorage raises ConflictError
when other storages would raise POSKeyError: something
tries to access an oid that was recently garbage collected (i.e.
deleted).
You will never again be able to load this
On 1/30/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-1-30 15:18 +0100:
...
Personally I haven't had a situation trivial enough for refresh to
work for years...
As I reported earlier, all that is needed is a small tool
to allows to register product dependencies
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/30/06, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 30. Januar 2006 17:39:11 + Peter Bengtsson wrote:
It's not a strange product. It's quite simple in fact.
Not being able to refresh without restarting means that I can't use
Zope 2.9 for python product development.
Why is refresh
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
def packZODB():
try:
import os, sys
os.chdir(/path/to/Zope/python)
Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
zeopack.py in the utilities\ZODBTools folder of your Zope distro is what
you're after, no need for home-grown
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily
On 1/30/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-30 18:54 +:
I've noticed another strange behaviour with the Acquisition module in
Zope 2.9 that might give us some clues as to why refreshing doesn't
work.
Imagine some code that looks like this::
from
Ah-ha, that's another approach I had not thought of!
Many thanks!
Cheers
Jonathan
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken
On 1/31/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/30/06, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 30. Januar 2006 17:39:11 + Peter Bengtsson wrote:
It's not a strange product. It's quite simple in fact.
Not being able to refresh without restarting means that I can't
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
inferior to zope-restart for product development.
I'm happy to share my setup to Open Source but it's
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
inferior to zope-restart for product
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
I do it though the webinterface with a wget
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
inferior to zope-restart for
Chris Withers wrote:
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var \
cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup \
/usr/local/bin/wget \
On 31 Jan 2006, at 13:05, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
And I don't understand how Zope product refresh doesn't have a higher
attention priority when it's so useful. As far as I know, it's the
only way to make changes to a zope2 product without having to restart
the server causing downtime and lost
ZEO Stepper
Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...
Chris
Max M wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var \
cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup \
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on
the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have bigger
caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2).
Jake
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On Mon, January 30, 2006 5:47 pm, Jens Vagelpohl said:
On 1/31/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
ZEO Stepper
Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...
Chris
Sounds interesting. Do you have a working example that you can post
here?
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Nothing is as
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
There it was.
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006 9:59 am, Jake said:
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on
the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites,
On 31 Jan 2006, at 14:59, Jake wrote:
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I
read on
the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have
bigger
caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2).
The term high traffic site doesn't mean a thing when it comes
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half-
thruths being propagated by well-meaning but
The product comes with a whole raft of examples for doing things:
http://www.simplistix.co.uk/software/zope/stepper
base.py and config.py contain the examples, lemme know if you have any
problems...
Chris
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers
--On 31. Januar 2006 12:32:35 -0500 Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache
size, like a table.
RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size
2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000
5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000
Such a table is pretty much
On 1/31/06, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/31/06, Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Refresh works well in limited situations, but it *cannot work* if you have
global registries or many interrelated modules.
The setup I use takes care of dependencies in a
It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache
size, like a table.
RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size
2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000
5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006 10:05 am, Jens Vagelpohl
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have completed my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have completed my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was
Qass wrote at 2006-1-30 16:12 -0600:
...
Now Zope/Plone use the various permission controls to mimic the above
but I would like to find out how to create the above
design/staging/production environment using Zope/Plone.
You keep this style for all kinds of infrastructure (code, templates,
Jonathan Cleaver wrote at 2006-1-31 11:38 +:
...
Now for the wierd bit. I successfully ran the code that went into this
module line-by-line in the Python interpreter. The data.fs was
beautifully packed. However, when I run this script from the command
line (through another script that acts
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-31 10:50 +:
...
if RefreshFuncs.performFullRefresh(self._p_jar, self.id):
from ZODB import Connection
Connection.resetCaches() # Clears cache in future connections.
The call above is responsible to clear the ZODB caches.
After your problem
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half-
thruths
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-31 13:05 +:
...
But that's what I'm doing!
Thanks to Dieter I've got som genuine technical help on what it might
be instead of just people saying that's not how I do it, give up
I am an enthusiastic refresh user and find is *MUCH* more productive
than the
Well, I have been using Zope for over 6 years and I still don't think I
have mastered what is truly best other than get a good server, with a lot
of RAM and bump up your threads * cache to use up about 50% of it.
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006
Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach to
threads?
Here is what I have been using:
- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)
- RH Linux
- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz
- 2GB DDR RAM
- 120,000 hits a day
- 392,036 objects in database
- 2 threads
- 100,000 object cache size
This
On 1/31/06, Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach tothreads?Here is what I have been using:- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)- RH Linux- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz- 2GB DDR RAM
- 120,000 hits a day- 392,036 objects in database- 2 threads-
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of
The same error is thrown if you use APE with filesystem storage.
I have Zope 2.7.8, Python 2.3.5, Plone 2.1.1 and Ape 1.0.
No idea why this happens. I've had zero luck with APE, and have
come to the conclusion that no one really uses it.
Bill
Jeff Macfarland wrote:
Ape 1.0 is set to store in
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