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warning may provide some tiny benefit,
the annoyance, especially for applications or libraries that still
support Python 2.5 far outweights the benefit.
I propose that these deprecation warnings be removed.
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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
On 05/19/2012 12:12 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
The declaration-syntax warnings in the zope.interface 4.0.0 are
annoying and mostly pointless.
There will be enough pain in porting applications to Python 3,
avoiding
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
On 05/19/2012 07:23 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
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I'd forgotten the fail silently bit. Can't we make the fail loudly
for Python 3?
They already do: 4.0.0 makes them exceptions under Python3: that fact
was actually my
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install something into the base code which
provides the desired support: the only change to zope.interface should
be documenting the insertion point, and testing that it does the right
thing when a dummy is plugged into it.
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Jerky
. The secondary win is that running the same code under Py3k
makes for better support / bug reports (line numbers match, etc.)
Unless the community's consensus is against the branch, I plan to merge
it to the zope.interface trunk by early next week.
Woo hoo!
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Sorry about that.
This wasn't a bad distribution, but a fail on setuptools part afaict.
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 05:00:27PM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
zope.app.server emits a ProcessStarting event on startup.
zope.app.wsgi.paste doesn't. I think it should.
+1
If there are no
objections, I'll make a bug
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:30:35AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
..
I'll also release this change as zope.app.wsgi 3.15.0, or do you think
this should be 4.0.0?
3.15.0 sounds about right to me.
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' tests. Not sure
if this was due to zope.testbrowser 4, or the (until recently)
unreleased zope.app.testing changes needed to work with
zope.testbrowser 4. I haven't had time to chase these down, thus the
3.9.3zc1 release, which I'm not terribly proud of.
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Done.
Jim
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
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Hi,
I'd like to make a bugfix release for zope.error. Could someone grant me the
needed permissions on pypi for this? My pypi handle is jw.
Thank you in advance.
regards, jw
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
I'm trying to untangle zope.app-based applications from zope.server
and am trying to figure out a sane way to get an access log.
zope.app.wsgi sets the wsgi.logging_info WSGI environment variable
with a user label to display
Committed and released as 3.14.0.
Jim
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
I'm trying to untangle zope.app-based applications from zope.server
and am trying to figure out a sane way to get an access log.
zope.app.wsgi sets the wsgi.logging_info WSGI environment
from the
REMOTE_USER environment variable.
I propose to modify zope.app.wsgi to set REMOTE_USER if it isn't
already set. This would be in addition to setting wsgi.logging_info.
Any objections?
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All apparently network failures during bootstrap.
Dude, you're a trooper for looking at these.
I wonder if failed builds could be retried.
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not sure where
I would look for such a thing.)
If anyone objects (or if this is duplicating something that already exists),
please let me know.
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:15 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
I'm going to take the liberty of creating a new package in the
zope.app namespace.
It's a small package that allows, zope.app-based applications to be wired
up to
WSGI
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org
wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:15 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
I'm going to take the liberty of creating a new package in the
zope.app namespace.
It's a small package
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Stephan Richter
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On Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:59:57 PM Jim Fulton wrote:
So, does anyone know of a recipe, similar to zc.zope3recipes:instance
that drives this?
I am using collective.recipe.template to generate different
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Stephan Richter
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On Thursday, December 15, 2011 01:54:01 PM Jim Fulton wrote:
How do values get from DEFAULT into the other sections?
If this is a buildout behavior, it's unintentional and unlikely to
work in the future
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
I can't find any use of it outside of tests, there are no docs for it,
and Jim doesn't remember why it is there. Any objections to removing it
on the trunk?
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that, but I copied the egg on my computer and uploaded it.
I had to lie about the Python version.
If that doesn't work, I can add you as a project maintainer, but Tres
is already one. :)
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Hi,
I'd like to make a minor release of zope.app.locales. Could anyone
grant access to handle janjaapdriessen?
Done.
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I haven't used GitHub myself, but I gather it's good. :) Why not
just let them host the project?
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On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote:
Hi.
A couple of us came together before the Plone conference to work on
various Zope related topics. We worked on the following areas:
This sounds like it was a very productive sprint.
Thanks for the update.
Jim
definitely put this
on my to-do list for 3.11.
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zope.schema trunk?
(or give me rights to do so, jinty on pypi)
I empowered you!
:)
Thanks.
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the zope testruner, you're somehow
picking up zope.testing.doctest, which counts each doctest example as
a test.
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I saw Zope 4 mentioned in public today. This is the first time I'd
seen it mentioned in public.
Is there a more formal announcement anywhere? Is there a description
of what it is envisioned to be?
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things sorted out.
For now, you can send me a note to request an account.
You'll then get emailed a link to let you enter your password.
That will get you to the next stage. :)
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
Hi Jim,
Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
put it.
As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:
If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
folders, can you knit it into the static site?
I think the only way to make them available without
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:
If I can provide a new tar ball that contains
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items
*past* the tarball
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
Hi Jim,
Great. I have a 400MB tarball. I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume
you
have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
put
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:
It looks like zope.org has moved
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
all exisiting URLs.
What incantation should I use?
Why should I use this rather than wget?
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
...
- zope.testing (for addCleanUp of the global registry in
z.c.globalregistry and other places)
This particular detail should simply be cleaned up by
moving these calls into tests module.
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:22 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
...
- zope.testing (for addCleanUp of the global registry in
z.c.globalregistry and other
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote:
* Jim Fulton j...@zope.com [2011-08-26 07:35]:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote:
* Jim Fulton j...@zope.com [2011-08-25 15:24]:
stripping zope.component to its core would
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote:
* Jim Fulton j...@zope.com [2011-08-25 15:24]:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote:
So I'd like to propose to do the split the other way around: Not
extract the core
to people, I often explain it as a good
generic plugin mechanism.
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of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope
small.
Can we spider this into a static site?
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What problem does this solve?
Jim
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Malthe Borch mbo...@gmail.com wrote:
I've refactored the ``pagetemplate`` module to realistically support
plugging in an alternative implementation of the parser and
interpreter.
http://svn.zope.org/zope.pagetemplate
permission *only* removed
from committed blob files. Read permissions should be controlled
by existing mechanisms such as umask.
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Robert Niederreiter r...@squarewave.at wrote:
Am Freitag, den 17.06.2011, 08:06 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton:
Any doubts, suggestions, other ideas?
-1 for a new configuration option.
I would rather just have write permission *only* removed
from committed blob
with the adaptation
worldview imposed
by interface __call__. ?
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
Currently if you ask a registry to singly-adapt an object to an
interface, and the object you're trying to adapt implements that
interface, here's what
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:36, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
If we decide to port zope.org-based projects to Python 3, please
please please, port them to Python 23 rather than relying on 2to3 (or
3to2). That is, update
excuse not to start thinking about Python
3 ports. :)
Sounds great. Do we want buildbots (in windows) for that?
For what?
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with Python 3(.2?)
OK. We're not ready for this yet. There are some test failures that
are either spurious or inconsequential.
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to the zope.org repo.
Does the patch fix the files? Or just list them?
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
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Hmm, these look like the Windows vs. Posix rounding error Jim thought he
normalized away yesterday.
Yeah. What repo path do these use? I fixed the 3.10 branch.
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Hello,
trunk
OK, I merged the renormalizing change to trunk.
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between windows and linux (and mac). :/
I've checked in a change (a renormalizer) that makes this test pass
for me on 32-bit windows.
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Martijn Pieters m...@zopatista.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 15:08, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
We do something similar with sftp (zc.buildoutsftp). To publish eggs,
we just use scp.
The advantage of this is that it leverages ssh infrastructure, so
scp.
The advantage of this is that it leverages ssh infrastructure, so *no*
additional password management is needed. This is wildly better, IMO,
than keeping passwords in clear text in your buildout configuration or
in a dot file.
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about
ceremony that just get in the way. py.test and (modern uses of) doctest are
in many ways a reaction to that ceremony.
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it was written at
the turn of the century, there weren't good alternatives. Personally,
I think maintaining it is boring.
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into this, but I really don't think
it's worth the added complexity.
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 March 2011 13:17, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote:
...
2. zope.component has two entry points, the global site registry
the dependencies of some zope
component on zope.publisher.
If possible, i'd like to see this 1.4 released.
Thank you for your attention
Thanks for digging into this. I'd be happy to do a review and give some
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Souheil CHELFOUH troll...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to answer, Jim.
The work, according to its descriptive nature, was done on the trunk.
I can revert the change and make a branch, if that's more appropriate
for this kind of evolution
gets more obvious once
we've done this.
I'm not going to comment any more on the broader thread unless/until I
have something specific to propose. Having said that, I'd like to go
on record as wanting to review the zca port to Python 3 before it's
finalized.
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Maybe it's enough to document what the directives do. Or maybe
something less attached to the class definition would make sense.
I don't know what the right answer is ... at least not yet. :)
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Martijn Faassen
faas...@startifact.com wrote:
On 03/21/2011 03:28 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
I don't know what the right answer is ... at least not yet. :)
In Django and sqlalchemy declarative a meta class is used for this kind
of configuration. Since
ambitious a goal,
but I think we can avoid a lot of ZCML we have now.
I'll probably make some concrete proposal at a later time. I trying
to avoid saying more in this thread now, but I thought it was
important try to be clearer aout what this thread was supposed to be
about.
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On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Stephan Richter
srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote:
...
I would be much
more interested in seeing a working WebOb to zope.publisher bridge. I know
Jim(?)
Yes.
has done some initial work on that. I think it would make an
interesting PSF project, since
code I hadn't written and probably don't
understand from
one platform to another. (My earlier comment on py2k-py3k porting wasn't meant
as a dig against py3k bit rather to say that I didn't think porting
projects would
be very interesting.)
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paragraph, it's
because I think there need to be rules that limit the mechanism. For
example, the baseline wiring should not depend on import order,
meaning that one module should nor be able to override another
module's default configuration.
I would be interested in mentoring this project.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 March 2011 13:46, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
I think we ought to come up with a much cleaner way of defining
default configuration. (Pyramid does this by passing default values in
adapter calls, but I
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote:
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
- The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the
code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by
pythonic. I remember Grok
forwarded the roadmap to him, so anyone who wants to
mentor, that would be great.
I hope that isn't what they want. :)
His stated goal for GSOC was to bring people into the community. I
can't think of many better ways to turn someone off than to ask them
to port something from Py2 to Py3.
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a lot that's good in the ztk and I'd like to see if
we can make it more usable.
Note that I'm absolutely *not* talking about packaging. :)
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of our tests is
hard to say though - the JIT might be more overhead than gain in that case.
I haven't found tests to be good measures of performance improvements.
Thanks for pointing this out.
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If anyone objects to this feature, or wants to review it before
I merge, please let me know. I will definitely fix the documentation and
remaining test failure before merging.
I'm not volunteering to review :), but this enhancement sounds great!
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in a root (or high-level file).
Of course, you can sometimes get the same effect in other ways.
For example, if one high-level component overrides another, then
the overriding component can just include the overridden one.
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
...
A user wants to reuse a high-level component (aka package aka
project in distutils
jargon aka product in distutils jargon). They want to customize
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:08 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
Independent of my previous call for discussion about ZCML conflict
resolution, I'm cutting
.
What exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
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clues about Zope's answers to the
challenges of each functional area.
If nothing else, I think the discussion will be valuable.
Thank you very much for your participation.
Thanks for spuring discussion.
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via JSON (bobo implmented some json
help classes IIRC).
So does zc.ajax (and our unfortunately internal zc.ajaxform). These
fit better with zope.publisher, fwiw. I'm sure there are other
examples of this in the zope ecosystem.
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AFAICT, it isn't being maintained.
I stopped using it a while ago. :(
Jim
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Sascha Welter zopel...@betabug.ch wrote:
Hi!
I don't know if anybody already noticed... download.zope.org seems to be
down since yesterday (Sunday 2010-10-10).
Regards,
Sascha
broke something.
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
I suspect that the shenanigans played by the ZODB persistent cache
implementation is running afoul of some changes in the garbage
collection implementation in Python 2.7.
My suspicion was correct. :)
See https
.
To me, the driving factor is that Python 2.4 is no-longer supported by
the Python
developers.
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of Python GC
internals, I'd love to get some help. :)
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Adam Groszer agroszer...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Actually, after checking with Jim, it seems that tests are passing for
ZTK 1.0 (or 1.0 candidate), they fail for the trunk version on
windows.
They pass for the trunk of ztk. They fail when running against
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
On 09/09/2010 21:47, Jim Fulton wrote:
2010-08-26 22:49:01 ERROR txn.-1338986496 Failed to abort resource
manager:MultiObjectResourceAdapter forZODB.DB.TransactionalUndo
object at 0x2d509f0 at 47516176
Traceback
capture
the undo exception information before calling abort.
My guess is that this works much better in ZODB 3.10.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/collective.buildout/+bug/596839
Killing a fg instance with ctrl-c isn't the only scenario where the lock and
pid files don't get cleaned up.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Martin Aspeli
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Hi,
With Plone 4
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Jim Pharis binbr...@gmail.com wrote:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/collective.buildout/+bug/596839
Killing a fg instance with ctrl-c isn't the only scenario where the lock
and
pid files don't get cleaned up.
I thought the problem was only the .pid file
Python versions
and architectures. Is this documented? If so, It's a missfeature.
If not, perhaps it should be reported as a bug.
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On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote:
Hi.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu
wrote:
I've recently stumbled on some at least to me unexpected behavior
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