On 1/30/06, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-1-30 15:18 +0100:
> > ...
> >Personally I haven't had a situation trivial enough for refresh to
> >work for years...
>
> As I reported earlier, all that is needed is a small tool
> to allows to register product dep
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/30/06, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 30. Januar 2006 17:39:11 + Peter Bengtsson wrote:
It's not a strange product. It's quite simple in fact.
Not being able to refresh without restarting means that I can't use
Zope 2.9 for python product development.
Why is refresh a
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
def packZODB():
try:
import os, sys
os.chdir("/path/to/Zope/python")
sys.path+=['/path/to/Zope/pyth
Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
zeopack.py in the utilities\ZODBTools folder of your Zope distro is what
you're after, no need for home-grown hack
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
> I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
> before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
> cookbook - thanks!
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily
On 1/30/06, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-30 18:54 +:
> >I've noticed another strange behaviour with the Acquisition module in
> >Zope 2.9 that might give us some clues as to why refreshing doesn't
> >work.
> >
> >Imagine some code that looks like th
Ah-ha, that's another approach I had not thought of!
Many thanks!
Cheers
Jonathan
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken
On 1/31/06, Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> > On 1/30/06, Andreas Jung wrote:
> >> --On 30. Januar 2006 17:39:11 + Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> >>> It's not a strange product. It's quite simple in fact.
> >>> Not being able to refresh without restarting m
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
inferior to zope-restart for product development.
I'm happy to share my setup to Open Source but it's qui
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> >> That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
> >>
> >
> > Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
> > inferior to zope-restart for pro
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:38:34AM +, Jonathan Cleaver wrote:
I am using the following module to pack my data.fs programmatically
before a backup is made. This was largely taken out of the Zopelabs
cookbook - thanks!
I do it though the webinterface with a wget f
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And I don't understand how Zope product refresh doesn't have a higher
attention priority when it's so useful. As far as I know, it's the
only way to make changes to a zope2 product without having to restart
the server
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, with my setup, restarting zope is gravely
inferior to zope-restart for
Chris Withers wrote:
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var && \
cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup && \
/usr/local/bin/wget \
'http://myzopeserver/Control_Panel/Database/manage_pack?day
On 31 Jan 2006, at 13:05, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
And I don't understand how Zope product refresh doesn't have a higher
attention priority when it's so useful. As far as I know, it's the
only way to make changes to a zope2 product without having to restart
the server causing downtime and lost ses
ZEO & Stepper
Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...
Chris
Max M wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
I do it though the webinterface with a wget from the crontab:
@daily cd /some_path/zeo_server/var && \
cp Data.fs Data.fs.pre_pack_backup && \
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on
the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have bigger
caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2).
Jake
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On Mon, January 30, 2006 5:47 pm, Jens Vagelpohl said:
On 1/31/06, Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> > On 1/31/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 31 Jan 2006, at 12:02, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> That's why I, like others in this thread, don't care about refresh.
>
> >>> Like I mentio
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wrote:
> ZEO & Stepper
>
> Or if you don't like Stepper, then zopectl run...
>
> Chris
Sounds interesting. Do you have a working example that you can post
here?
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http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
There it was.
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006 9:59 am, Jake said:
> I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on
> the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites,
On 31 Jan 2006, at 14:59, Jake wrote:
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I
read on
the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have
bigger
caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2).
The term "high traffic site" doesn't mean a thing when it comes
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half-
thruths being propagated by well-meaning but uninformed
The product comes with a whole raft of examples for doing things:
http://www.simplistix.co.uk/software/zope/stepper
base.py and config.py contain the examples, lemme know if you have any
problems...
Chris
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36:36PM +, Chris Withers wro
On 1/31/06, Peter Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Refresh works well in limited situations, but it *cannot work* if you have
> > global registries or many interrelated modules.
> >
> The setup I use takes care of dependencies in a semi-manual way. In my
> refresh-config I define which othe
--On 31. Januar 2006 12:32:35 -0500 Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache
size, like a table.
RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size
2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000
5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000
Such a table is pretty much worthle
On 1/31/06, Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/31/06, Peter Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Refresh works well in limited situations, but it *cannot work* if you have
> > > global registries or many interrelated modules.
> > >
> > The setup I use takes care of dependencies
It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache
size, like a table.
RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size
2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000
5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006 10:05 am, Jens Vagelpohl said
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have "completed" my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was com
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have "completed" my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was com
Qass wrote at 2006-1-30 16:12 -0600:
> ...
>Now Zope/Plone use the various permission controls to mimic the above
>but I would like to find out how to create the above
>design/staging/production environment using Zope/Plone.
You keep this style for all kinds of infrastructure (code, templates,
scr
Jonathan Cleaver wrote at 2006-1-31 11:38 +:
> ...
>Now for the wierd bit. I successfully ran the code that went into this
>module line-by-line in the Python interpreter. The data.fs was
>beautifully packed. However, when I run this script from the command
>line (through another script that
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-31 10:50 +:
> ...
> if RefreshFuncs.performFullRefresh(self._p_jar, self.id):
>from ZODB import Connection
>Connection.resetCaches() # Clears cache in future connections.
The call above is responsible to clear the ZODB caches.
After your problem descrip
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +:
>On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
>
>> http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
>
>That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
>and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half-
>thr
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-1-31 13:05 +:
> ...
>But that's what I'm doing!
>Thanks to Dieter I've got som genuine technical help on what it might
>be instead of just people saying "that's not how I do it, give up"
I am an enthusiastic "refresh" user and find is *MUCH* more productive
than t
Well, I have been using Zope for over 6 years and I still don't think I
have mastered what is truly best other than get a good server, with a lot
of RAM and bump up your threads * cache to use up about 50% of it.
Jake
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On Tue, January 31, 2006 12:46
Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach to
threads?
Here is what I have been using:
- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)
- RH Linux
- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz
- 2GB DDR RAM
- 120,000 hits a day
- 392,036 objects in database
- 2 threads
- 100,000 object cache size
This seem
On 1/31/06, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach tothreads?Here is what I have been using:- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)- RH Linux- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz- 2GB DDR RAM
- 120,000 hits a day- 392,036 objects in database- 2 threads- 10
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +:
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote:
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size
That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,
and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay
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