Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2007-1-15 17:05 +0100: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15 Jan 2007, at 16:55, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote: [JV] There is no difference in speed or cost. You do not need any fancy HTML editor, and you do not need a big budget. [JL] Yes, but what if you have a part of a bigger development team, where are the graphics designer, web designer, web coders and web system developers not only single person, but many? Then ZPT is the right choice. But if you are single or two, then it is really considerably chepaer to use DTML. [JV] Still wrong. I work by myself most of the time. Sorry if you had bad experiences, but stop trying to sell some perception as fact. [DM] Are you doing the same? You are claiming above there is no difference in speed and cost, but, depending on many things (most notably personal background and preferences) there may well be differences. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
At Sunday 14/1/2007 02:00, Reena Karthikeyan wrote: I work as a software test engineer in the middle east and was looking for a good bug tracking tool and that is when I happened to find this site. I found Zope to be very useful and now my next( Most important) step is to start using the Issue Tracker tool. However, I am unable do so. The reason being that I do not exactly know what to do. If all you need is a bug tracker, perhaps installing and maintaing Zope is too much. You may be interested in Roundup: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ -- Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. there is very good dolumentation to be found under: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition (disregard anything about dtml and zclasses, this are dying concepts) ZClasses are deprecated as of zope 2.10.0 beta 1 (see CHANGES.txt). DTML is NOT deprecated and is NOT a dying concept. ZPT and DTML are used by different people for different reasons; both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses, but both are viable, ongoing components of Zope. Jonathan your right Dtml is not dying. its dead. At the risk of feeding the troll... One of the wonderful things (of which there are many!) about Zope, is that Zope provides a plethora of tools for building applications. Some people prefer certain tools over others. The choice of tool is less important than whether it meets the needs of the application. If a Zope developer has a preference for one tool over another that is an internal choice, and I am sure that newcomers to Zope would be happy to hear the reasons for the tool selection. However, it is not helpful to disparage the other tools as newcomers to Zope may find them useful. Saying that certain features are 'dead' (which they are not in this particular instance) may scare newcomers away from that tool, and possibly away from Zope, which would not be helpful to the Zope community as a whole. Zope is a fantastic web application development platform, and it is in our own best interests to ensure that newcomers are informed about all of the many features and solutions it offers. Jonathan jonathan, you are of course perfectly right. but tough DTML still exists it is dated and largely replaced by tal et al. all new developpment efforts go into this set of utilities. I strongly recommend any newcomer not to touch DTML unless she has to deal with some legacy code. (ZSQL does not count here). robert begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
- Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] DTML is NOT deprecated and is NOT a dying concept. ZPT and DTML are used by different people for different reasons; both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses, but both are viable, ongoing components of Zope. Jonathan your right Dtml is not dying. its dead. At the risk of feeding the troll... One of the wonderful things (of which there are many!) about Zope, is that Zope provides a plethora of tools for building applications. Some people prefer certain tools over others. The choice of tool is less important than whether it meets the needs of the application. If a Zope developer has a preference for one tool over another that is an internal choice, and I am sure that newcomers to Zope would be happy to hear the reasons for the tool selection. However, it is not helpful to disparage the other tools as newcomers to Zope may find them useful. Saying that certain features are 'dead' (which they are not in this particular instance) may scare newcomers away from that tool, and possibly away from Zope, which would not be helpful to the Zope community as a whole. Zope is a fantastic web application development platform, and it is in our own best interests to ensure that newcomers are informed about all of the many features and solutions it offers. Jonathan jonathan, you are of course perfectly right. but tough DTML still exists it is dated and largely replaced by tal et al. all new developpment efforts go into this set of utilities. I strongly recommend any newcomer not to touch DTML unless she has to deal with some legacy code. (ZSQL does not count here). robert No, DTML is perfect for sites with lower budget than price for Vignette. ZPT/TAL is great for really big sites with really big hardware and budget too. ZPT is great for sites with many changes of design per year, but you need graphics webstudio which does not crash your lovely template. But these studios are not as cheap as you want. If your budget (without hardware) is roughly as price for Vignette, then do that web with ZPT. Else use DTML. JL. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
--On 15. Januar 2007 10:40:34 +0100 Jaroslav Lukesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, DTML is perfect for sites with lower budget than price for Vignette. ZPT/TAL is great for really big sites with really big hardware and budget too. ZPT is great for sites with many changes of design per year, but you need graphics webstudio which does not crash your lovely template. But these studios are not as cheap as you want. If your budget (without hardware) is roughly as price for Vignette, then do that web with ZPT. Else use DTML. What has the budget to do with ZPT vs. DTML? That's really the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. Do you want to tell us that the costs for writing ZPT code are higher than for writing unmaintainable DTML crap code? -aj pgpCj5eU9VaHf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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Budget has to do, because writing of website with dtml is much faster than in zpt. And webdesigner studios that does not make crap from your ZPT template have 10x more price level than PHP-like graphics studios. DTML - lower cost of development ZPT - lower cost for design changes DTML - is possible to use cheaper webdesigners ZPT - hi-end web studios needed DTML - reasonable speed with no more tuning ZPT - needs power HW and/or performance tuning - Original Message - From: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] What has the budget to do with ZPT vs. DTML? That's really the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. Do you want to tell us that the costs for writing ZPT code are higher than for writing unmaintainable DTML crap code? -aj ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
--On 15. Januar 2007 12:40:30 +0100 Jaroslav Lukesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Budget has to do, because writing of website with dtml is much faster than in zpt. And webdesigner studios that does not make crap from your ZPT template have 10x more price level than PHP-like graphics studios. DTML - lower cost of development ZPT - lower cost for design changes DTML - is possible to use cheaper webdesigners ZPT - hi-end web studios needed I've never seen a webdesigner delivering something in DTML or ZPT. The deliver usually (bad) HTML - nothing else. And it is up to the developer to fill the HTML with life. DTML - reasonable speed with no more tuning ZPT - needs power HW and/or performance tuning The performance of the underlying frameworks is much more important than looking only at the ZPT performance. -aj pgpbfdKHYbioC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15 Jan 2007, at 12:40, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote: Budget has to do, because writing of website with dtml is much faster than in zpt. And webdesigner studios that does not make crap from your ZPT template have 10x more price level than PHP-like graphics studios. Sorry, that's complete BS. You're describing your own preferences and mindset, this is clearly not a statement grounded in fact. When I wrote DTML I used a text editor. Now I write mostly ZPT and guess what, I still use the same text editor. The tools have not changed at all for me. And even more important, this is true for almost every single developer I know - and I know a lot of them. There is no difference in speed or cost. You do not need any fancy HTML editor, and you do not need a big budget. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFq20KRAx5nvEhZLIRAnjyAKCbvJpW3frCbbpug00bqx12DT72EgCggjpP vNnGYYatiXUcvvL1gW9XiAg= =H0EJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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From: Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Budget has to do, because writing of website with dtml is much faster than in zpt. And webdesigner studios that does not make crap from your ZPT template have 10x more price level than PHP-like graphics studios. Sorry, that's complete BS. You're describing your own preferences and mindset, this is clearly not a statement grounded in fact. When I wrote DTML I used a text editor. Now I write mostly ZPT and guess what, I still use the same text editor. The tools have not changed at all for me. And even more important, this is true for almost every single developer I know - and I know a lot of them. There is no difference in speed or cost. You do not need any fancy HTML editor, and you do not need a big budget. Yes, but what if you have a part of a bigger development team, where are the graphics designer, web designer, web coders and web system developers not only single person, but many? Then ZPT is the right choice. But if you are single or two, then it is really considerably chepaer to use DTML. JL. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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Yes, but what if you have a part of a bigger development team, where are the graphics designer, web designer, web coders and web system developers not only single person, but many? Then ZPT is the right choice. But if you are single or two, then it is really considerably chepaer to use DTML. I find DTML to be more expensive, because I make more mistakes, more easily. I prefer ZPT, and we do not have a big dev team here. Sorry, just because you prefer DTML doesn't make it any cheaper to develop with it. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15 Jan 2007, at 16:55, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote: There is no difference in speed or cost. You do not need any fancy HTML editor, and you do not need a big budget. Yes, but what if you have a part of a bigger development team, where are the graphics designer, web designer, web coders and web system developers not only single person, but many? Then ZPT is the right choice. But if you are single or two, then it is really considerably chepaer to use DTML. Still wrong. I work by myself most of the time. Sorry if you had bad experiences, but stop trying to sell some perception as fact. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFq6ZMRAx5nvEhZLIRAhdpAKC4oWLlJw3YQlKie++kCzKPk7x8hwCfa7UN 65rMiB4H/XcEoFDsu6bk2kE= =qG7z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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At Monday 15/1/2007 10:49, Reena Karthikeyan wrote: I downloaded Python and also round up. In the following link http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/installation.htmlhttp://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/installation.html basic installation steps confuse me. I tried teh demo, it simply gives me a command prompt and I typed in D:\DEMO and nothing happened. Demo did not start like mentioned in the docs. (This is getting absolutely off topic) At least follow the instructions For the Really Impatient: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/installation.html#for-the-really-impatient There is a lot of help on the Roundup site, and a mailing list. It's easy to set up - but the demo will work without any setup at all. -- Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
- Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. there is very good dolumentation to be found under: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition (disregard anything about dtml and zclasses, this are dying concepts) ZClasses are deprecated as of zope 2.10.0 beta 1 (see CHANGES.txt). DTML is NOT deprecated and is NOT a dying concept. ZPT and DTML are used by different people for different reasons; both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses, but both are viable, ongoing components of Zope. Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. there is very good dolumentation to be found under: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition (disregard anything about dtml and zclasses, this are dying concepts) ZClasses are deprecated as of zope 2.10.0 beta 1 (see CHANGES.txt). DTML is NOT deprecated and is NOT a dying concept. ZPT and DTML are used by different people for different reasons; both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses, but both are viable, ongoing components of Zope. Jonathan your right Dtml is not dying. its dead. some zombies here and there however .. :) robert PS: some 5 years ago I was proficient with Dtml. Nowadays I get the shivers if I have to understand a piece of it begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
- Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required.. there is very good dolumentation to be found under: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition (disregard anything about dtml and zclasses, this are dying concepts) ZClasses are deprecated as of zope 2.10.0 beta 1 (see CHANGES.txt). DTML is NOT deprecated and is NOT a dying concept. ZPT and DTML are used by different people for different reasons; both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses, but both are viable, ongoing components of Zope. Jonathan your right Dtml is not dying. its dead. At the risk of feeding the troll... One of the wonderful things (of which there are many!) about Zope, is that Zope provides a plethora of tools for building applications. Some people prefer certain tools over others. The choice of tool is less important than whether it meets the needs of the application. If a Zope developer has a preference for one tool over another that is an internal choice, and I am sure that newcomers to Zope would be happy to hear the reasons for the tool selection. However, it is not helpful to disparage the other tools as newcomers to Zope may find them useful. Saying that certain features are 'dead' (which they are not in this particular instance) may scare newcomers away from that tool, and possibly away from Zope, which would not be helpful to the Zope community as a whole. Zope is a fantastic web application development platform, and it is in our own best interests to ensure that newcomers are informed about all of the many features and solutions it offers. Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
Hi Reena, Well I was assuming you used Zope before... Well... After extracting the product to Products folder under Zope root you should restart zope service and then open your browser to http://localhost:port/manage Then you have to create your products object inside zope using that management interface Then you have to point your browser to http://localhost:port/objectname But if you're really new to Zope you should reald: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ This should give you a good start! :-) CU Hugo On 1/14/07, Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hugo, Thanks for ur imm response. I did just that. But I am not sure Y it doesnt still show up. Tell me if I am running Zope correct. All I do is run the instance from teh start menu and then open the application from the link (or should it come up by itself). How do I exit from the application I extracted all the files in to a folder called products available at Zope. I then again restarted zope and checked under the products under control panel. Is it right??? Am I missing something Thanks, Reena On 1/14/07, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Reena, All you have to do is move the folder with all those files to a folder named Products somewhere inside your zope instance. Then restart zope. CU Hugo On 1/14/07, Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I am a new user of Zope. I am sure, all of you all are masters at using Zope. I am not sure if I am writing my query to the right place. However, please forgive me if I am doing something wrong. I work as a software test engineer in the middle east and was looking for a good bug tracking tool and that is when I happened to find this site. I found Zope to be very useful and now my next( Most important) step is to start using the Issue Tracker tool. However, I am unable do so. The reason being that I do not exactly know what to do. I have installed Zope 2.9.6 from the link below: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.6 and have downloaded issuetracker from : http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#IssueTrackerProduct When I unzip issue tracker all I see is a bunch of gif files, dtml files, py and zpt files. I have no idea what to do next. Please help me out to use this tool at the earliest. Also I would really appreciate it if you could provide me with any kind of documentation available to carry out the same. Thanks and Regards, Reena Diju ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Consultant ~~ @ ~~ http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 http://otuggapoesia.blogspot.com/ http://otugga.blogspot.com/ -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Consultant ~~ @ ~~ http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 http://otuggapoesia.blogspot.com/ http://otugga.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Urgent Help Required......
*Dear All,* * * *I am a new user of Zope. I am sure, all of you all are masters at using Zope. I am not sure if I am writing my query to the right place. However, please forgive me if I am doing something wrong. * ** *I work as a software test engineer in the middle east and was looking for a good bug tracking tool and that is when I happened to find this site. I found Zope to be very useful and now my next( Most important) step is to start using the Issue Tracker tool. However, I am unable do so. The reason being that I do not exactly know what to do. * * * *I have installed Zope 2.9.6 from the link below:* *http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.6*http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.6 * * *and have downloaded issuetracker from : ** http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#IssueTrackerProduct*http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#IssueTrackerProduct * * *When I unzip issue tracker all I see is a bunch of gif files, dtml files, py and zpt files. I have no idea what to do next. Please help me out to use this tool at the earliest. Also I would really appreciate it if you could provide me with any kind of documentation available to carry out the same. * *Thanks and Regards,* *Reena Diju* ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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there is very good dolumentation to be found under: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition (disregard anything about dtml and zclasses, this are dying concepts) google on how to install new zope products. I found: http://highspeedrails.com/Support/Howto/InstallProducts robert Reena Karthikeyan wrote: *Dear All,* * * *I am a new user of Zope. I am sure, all of you all are masters at using Zope. I am not sure if I am writing my query to the right place. However, please forgive me if I am doing something wrong. * ** *I work as a software test engineer in the middle east and was looking for a good bug tracking tool and that is when I happened to find this site. I found Zope to be very useful and now my next( Most important) step is to start using the Issue Tracker tool. However, I am unable do so. The reason being that I do not exactly know what to do. * * * *I have installed Zope 2.9.6 from the link below: * *http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.6* * * *and have downloaded issuetracker from : * *http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#IssueTrackerProduct* * * *When I unzip issue tracker all I see is a bunch of gif files, dtml files, py and zpt files. I have no idea what to do next. Please help me out to use this tool at the earliest. Also I would really appreciate it if you could provide me with any kind of documentation available to carry out the same. * /*Thanks and Regards,*/ /*Reena Diju*/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) begin:vcard fn:robert rottermann n:rottermann;robert email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:031 333 10 20 tel;fax:031 333 10 23 tel;home:031 333 36 03 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required......
Hi Reena, All you have to do is move the folder with all those files to a folder named Products somewhere inside your zope instance. Then restart zope. CU Hugo On 1/14/07, Reena Karthikeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I am a new user of Zope. I am sure, all of you all are masters at using Zope. I am not sure if I am writing my query to the right place. However, please forgive me if I am doing something wrong. I work as a software test engineer in the middle east and was looking for a good bug tracking tool and that is when I happened to find this site. I found Zope to be very useful and now my next( Most important) step is to start using the Issue Tracker tool. However, I am unable do so. The reason being that I do not exactly know what to do. I have installed Zope 2.9.6 from the link below: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.6 and have downloaded issuetracker from : http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#IssueTrackerProduct When I unzip issue tracker all I see is a bunch of gif files, dtml files, py and zpt files. I have no idea what to do next. Please help me out to use this tool at the earliest. Also I would really appreciate it if you could provide me with any kind of documentation available to carry out the same. Thanks and Regards, Reena Diju ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Consultant ~~ @ ~~ http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 http://otuggapoesia.blogspot.com/ http://otugga.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Urgent Help, raise CorruptedTransactionError, message
When I try to start zope I get the following error.
root@capsprodt1:/home/caps/test/zope$ Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/caps/test/zope/z2.py", line 386, in ?
exec "import "+MODULE in {}
File "string", line 1, in ?
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py", line 109, in
?
DB=ZODB.FileStorage.FileStorage(Globals.BobobaseName)
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 287,
in __init__
self._pos, self._oid, tid = read_index(
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 1165,
in read_index
panic('%s has invalid transaction header at %s', name, pos)
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 214,
in panic
raise CorruptedTransactionError, message
ZODB.FileStorage.CorruptedTransactionError:
/home/caps/test/zope/var/Data.fs has invalid transaction header at
31404268
Any ideas
Dan
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Re: [Zope] Urgent Help, raise CorruptedTransactionError, message
Daniel,
You may wish to try the fsrecover script (shipped with Zope) or Ty Sarna's
"tranalyzer" product to figure out where the bad transaction is and truncate
your Data.fs to that point. There is a how-to on Zope.org by Itamar about
doing just this at this location:
http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB
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Subject: [Zope] Urgent Help, raise CorruptedTransactionError, message
When I try to start zope I get the following error.
root@capsprodt1:/home/caps/test/zope$ Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/caps/test/zope/z2.py", line 386, in ?
exec "import "+MODULE in {}
File "string", line 1, in ?
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py", line 109, in
?
DB=ZODB.FileStorage.FileStorage(Globals.BobobaseName)
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 287,
in __init__
self._pos, self._oid, tid = read_index(
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 1165,
in read_index
panic('%s has invalid transaction header at %s', name, pos)
File "/home/caps/test/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 214,
in panic
raise CorruptedTransactionError, message
ZODB.FileStorage.CorruptedTransactionError:
/home/caps/test/zope/var/Data.fs has invalid transaction header at
31404268
Any ideas
Dan
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[Zope] Import into Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope - Urgent
Hi Zopers, Have you ever seen any message like this ? import into /home/zope/214/var/Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope on Dec 3 at 12:25:13 import into /home/zope/214/var/Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope on Dec 3 at 12:23:50 import into /home/zope/214/var/Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope on Dec 3 at 12:10:07 import into /home/zope/214/var/Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope on Dec 3 at 12:05:30 import into /home/zope/214/var/Data.fs from (unknown) by Zope on Dec 3 at 11:57:56 I get this message at UNDO log generated by Zope. This is happening every 5 minutes. Regards Rodrigo ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 Andreas Tille wrote: we intent to buy new web server hardware. We want to run Debian GNU/Linux on a Sun system. I wonder if zope could profit from a multi-processor architecture on such a system. If you mix in ZEO (now open source), yes it can. With ZEO you can run independent Zope processes that all refer to the same site. The global interpreter lock becomes irrelevant. Zope server starts several threads. So could they be split over the different processors automatically, can I enforce it or is it not possible. Sorry for quoting myself but I need this information today because we have a meeting with some salesman. If I can not clearly answer this question it might be bad for implementing zope in our institute because a wrong designed hardware could lead to another software than zope and this would be a shame. Then ZEO is exactly what you're looking for. Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
Shane Hathaway wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 Andreas Tille wrote: we intent to buy new web server hardware. We want to run Debian GNU/Linux on a Sun system. I wonder if zope could profit from a multi-processor architecture on such a system. If you mix in ZEO (now open source), yes it can. With ZEO you can run independent Zope processes that all refer to the same site. The global interpreter lock becomes irrelevant. Zope server starts several threads. So could they be split over the different processors automatically, can I enforce it or is it not possible. Sorry for quoting myself but I need this information today because we have a meeting with some salesman. If I can not clearly answer this question it might be bad for implementing zope in our institute because a wrong designed hardware could lead to another software than zope and this would be a shame. Then ZEO is exactly what you're looking for. You are assuming one uses some sort of load balancing. A good question is how you can control certain processes running on which processor? Our experiences of ZEO have been a Zope Server and bunch of Zope clients serving requests. We still contend that you get more out of single CPU and lots of memory and no balancer. Also, it depends on processor scheduling and thread modules of a given OS. With single server, it is easier on administering your site. Well, that is given.. KISS, Keep It Stupid Simple is what I come back to after having used all kinds of stuff; balancer, SAN, etc. Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) begin:vcard n:Kim;Chalu tel;work:(212) 929-3087 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.egenius.com org:eGenius, Inc "Open-Source People" adr:;;137 Varick Street, 6th FL;New York;New York;10013;US version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Chief Navigator end:vcard
Re: [Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
This confirms my understanding of Zope and Python. ZEO does not solve your problem explicitly because ZEO is more of distributed way of balancing the load. This is another ball of wax and ,in theory, it works great. But it has its own particular problems. Until someone conclusively shows, our build of Zope server is based on single CPU. We would rather spend more time making Zope more fault-tolerant through use of journaled file system and high availability. Our experiences of supporting large sites have pointed in this direction. Daniel Dittmar wrote: I don't think Python (and therefor Zope) will profit from a multiprocessor as there is something known as the 'global lock' which prevents more than one Python thread to run at a time. Things look different if you're accessing a database (other than ZODB) because a properly written database module will release the lock while waiting for a reply. So Zope would use one processor and the database the other one(s). Other possibilities: - you have lots of static data, then these could be served by Apache directly (which would benefit from the additional processor) - you have some very expensive operations (generating GIFs from data etc.). Then you could implement those in a separate server. Andreas Tille wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 Andreas Tille wrote: we intent to buy new web server hardware. We want to run Debian GNU/Linux on a Sun system. I wonder if zope could profit from a multi-processor architecture on such a system. Zope server starts several threads. So could they be split over the different processors automatically, can I enforce it or is it not possible. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) begin:vcard n:Kim;Chalu tel;work:(212) 929-3087 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.egenius.com org:eGenius, Inc "Open-Source People" adr:;;137 Varick Street, 6th FL;New York;New York;10013;US version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Chief Navigator end:vcard
Re: [Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
On Thursday 23 November 2000 18:46, Daniel Dittmar wrote: I don't think Python (and therefor Zope) will profit from a multiprocessor as there is something known as the 'global lock' which prevents more than one Python thread to run at a time. Things look different if you're accessing a database (other than ZODB) because a properly written database module will release the lock while waiting for a reply. So Zope would use one processor and the database the other one(s). Other possibilities: - you have lots of static data, then these could be served by Apache directly (which would benefit from the additional processor) - you have some very expensive operations (generating GIFs from data etc.). Then you could implement those in a separate server. I would have to agree with this. We are currently running Zope on a dual processor Sparc station. However, also on that box is MySQL, and Apache. So, whilst Zope can only use one CPU, there is still plenty of CPU time for the DB and Apache to handle their requests. I've not done any tests, but I can't see how this _wouldn't_ be faster than a single CPU. And, of course, if you happen to be running Linux 2.4 on your system, the multi-threaded IP stack will definitely benefit from the extra CPUs. Have a better one, Curtis Maloney ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 Andreas Tille wrote: we intent to buy new web server hardware. We want to run Debian GNU/Linux on a Sun system. I wonder if zope could profit from a multi-processor architecture on such a system. Zope server starts several threads. So could they be split over the different processors automatically, can I enforce it or is it not possible. Sorry for quoting myself but I need this information today because we have a meeting with some salesman. If I can not clearly answer this question it might be bad for implementing zope in our institute because a wrong designed hardware could lead to another software than zope and this would be a shame. Kind regards Andreas. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [Urgent] Zope good for multiprocessor hardware
I don't think Python (and therefor Zope) will profit from a multiprocessor as there is something known as the 'global lock' which prevents more than one Python thread to run at a time. Things look different if you're accessing a database (other than ZODB) because a properly written database module will release the lock while waiting for a reply. So Zope would use one processor and the database the other one(s). Other possibilities: - you have lots of static data, then these could be served by Apache directly (which would benefit from the additional processor) - you have some very expensive operations (generating GIFs from data etc.). Then you could implement those in a separate server. Andreas Tille wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 Andreas Tille wrote: we intent to buy new web server hardware. We want to run Debian GNU/Linux on a Sun system. I wonder if zope could profit from a multi-processor architecture on such a system. Zope server starts several threads. So could they be split over the different processors automatically, can I enforce it or is it not possible. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] urgent
hi, i am using zope(2.2.1) for sending mails, but it is not possible to send attachment. kindly let me know the reason have made use of mime to send attachment. thanks, jacintha ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] urgent
dtml-sendmail mailhost="MailHost" To:!--#var to -- From:!--#var from -- Subject: dtml-var subject dtml-mime type=text/plain encode=7bit !--#var comments-- dtml-boundary type="application/pdf; name=jsp-syntax.pdf" disposition="attachment; filename=EquipmentOrder.pdf" encode=base64dtml-in "PrintServiceOrder.PrintPdfs.fileValues(fileName)"dtml-var "_['sequence-item'].getObject()"/dtml-in/dtml-mime /dtml-sendmail PrintServiceOrder is a folder PrintPdfs is a localFileSystem Object Hope this helps Dan jacintha menezes wrote: hi, i am using zope(2.2.1) for sending mails, but it is not possible to send attachment. kindly let me know the reason have made use of mime to send attachment. thanks, jacintha ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Urgent: acquisition and permissions question.
Hello everybody Maybe the answer is easy, but I can not find the solution:(and maybe I was completly wrong about permissions) I have a folder containing SQLs and methods: /project and a subfolder who has his access and view security setting disable for anonymous: /project/protected When anonymous access /project/index_html he see the page : that's good. 1)When anonymous access /project/protected/index_html he also see the page. Is it normal?? ( the index_html is of course only inside the /project ) 2)If anonymous access /project/protected/some_method_with_sql and the result is empty, he see the result page!That's strange. But if the result is not empty, he get the authentication box : that's good. It's zope2.2.1 So can someone explain me the rules when an unprotected object is acquired from a protected folder?? Thanks, Gilles ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Fwd: Re: [Zope] Urgent: acquisition and permissions question.
Just put an index_html under protected folder the user will get access denied... On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hello everybody Maybe the answer is easy, but I can not find the solution:(and maybe I was completly wrong about permissions) I have a folder containing SQLs and methods: /project and a subfolder who has his access and view security setting disable for anonymous: /project/protected When anonymous access /project/index_html he see the page : that's good. 1)When anonymous access /project/protected/index_html he also see the page. Is it normal?? ( the index_html is of course only inside the /project ) 2)If anonymous access /project/protected/some_method_with_sql and the result is empty, he see the result page!That's strange. But if the result is not empty, he get the authentication box : that's good. It's zope2.2.1 So can someone explain me the rules when an unprotected object is acquired from a protected folder?? Thanks, Gilles ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- --- Diego Rodrigo Neufert -webmaster --- (Magic Web Design) (email) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (curitiba) (pr) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Fwd: Re: [Zope] Urgent: acquisition and permissions question.
Yes, I know, but I want to avoid duplicating methods. And I would like to understand why it's not working as expected. Gilles -Original Message- From: Diego Rodrigo Neufert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: [Zope] Fwd: Re: [Zope] Urgent: acquisition and permissions question. Just put an index_html under protected folder the user will get access denied... On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hello everybody Maybe the answer is easy, but I can not find the solution:(and maybe I was completly wrong about permissions) I have a folder containing SQLs and methods: /project and a subfolder who has his access and view security setting disable for anonymous: /project/protected When anonymous access /project/index_html he see the page : that's good. 1)When anonymous access /project/protected/index_html he also see the page. Is it normal?? ( the index_html is of course only inside the /project ) 2)If anonymous access /project/protected/some_method_with_sql and the result is empty, he see the result page!That's strange. But if the result is not empty, he get the authentication box : that's good. It's zope2.2.1 So can someone explain me the rules when an unprotected object is acquired from a protected folder?? Thanks, Gilles ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- --- Diego Rodrigo Neufert -webmaster --- (Magic Web Design) (email) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (curitiba) (pr) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent: acquisition and permissions question.
Gilles Lavaux writes: Maybe the answer is easy, but I can not find the solution:(and maybe I was completly wrong about permissions) I have a folder containing SQLs and methods: /project and a subfolder who has his access and view security setting disable for anonymous: /project/protected When anonymous access /project/index_html he see the page : that's good. 1)When anonymous access /project/protected/index_html he also see the page. Is it normal?? ( the index_html is of course only inside the /project ) 2)If anonymous access /project/protected/some_method_with_sql and the result is empty, he see the result page!That's strange. But if the result is not empty, he get the authentication box : that's good. It's zope2.2.1 The security system does not use the full acquisition context but only the containment. This is a security feature to prevent a user with partial management rights in a subfolder to affect permissions for objects outside its area. I think (am not sure!) that in your case, the "protected" context is not used as your objects are in fact outside "protected". Dieter ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Urgent Problem - CMG - script is not working
Hallo, I've got an urgent problem. I' like to add websites by using forms which decide about the new content( upload a logo, new text,etc.). I know that's described in the CMG but the builder-script is not working. "Invalid syntax". The most import thing is to be able to clone an object and then to change the propertys. Please mail me a version that's working because tomorrow I have to show it to my boss. Thanks!!!
Re: [Zope] Urgent Problem - CMG - script is not working
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Sven Hohage wrote: I know that's described in the CMG but the builder-script is not working. "Invalid syntax". The most import thing is to be able to clone an object and then to change the propertys. Please mail me a version that's working because tomorrow I have to show it to my boss. Try emailing us a cut and paste of the code you are trying to enter, as well as the line number where it is complaining about the syntax error, and perhaps we can help you figure out where things are going wrong. --RDM ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent problem: Database and large clock skew
--Also Sprache Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:19 AM +0100: That probably means you are using ZODB2, yes? (please say yes; ZODB3 should be immune to this problem). If so, there used to be a tool to correct the timestamps... you should be able to find it in the utils directory in the Zope 1 CVS Ding ding ding. Found it. Just what I was looking for! I'll give it a try. I am indeed using ZODB2. I worked around the problem temporarily by snipping all the code out of SimpleDB.py that checks the sanity of the timestamps (After making a copy of my database first :) http://classic.zope.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ZUtil/fixbbbts.py Thanks very much. -- Jim Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jimfl.tensegrity.net ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Urgent problem: Database and large clock skew
Jim, It might be wise to just truncate the Data.fs at the point the transactions occurred. See http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB -Original Message- From: Jim Flanagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Urgent problem: Database and large clock skew Hi, In trying to fix a problem with Zope httpd server sockets getting wedged in TIME_WAIT state, I set my system clock ahead by a year, then set it back. Unfortunately, connections to the Zope httpd server occurred while the clock was set in the future, and now when I try to start Zope, it dies with: DatabaseError: The database contains records, starting at position 189587919, that have time stamps 2540023.19965 seconds in the future. This could lead to database corruption. Please double check your system clock! I'm using a pre-2.0 version of Zope (Though I can't determin exacly which version...) Is there any way to correct insane timestamp values? I'm pretty much dead in the water. Alternatively, I have found the section in BoboPOS.py where this exception is generated. Is it really a problem to have future timestamps? What if I just snipped this portion of the code out? Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA -- Jim Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jimfl.tensegrity.net ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent problem: Database and large clock skew
In article 116492527.962189166@[172.20.20.1], Jim Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In trying to fix a problem with Zope httpd server sockets getting wedged in TIME_WAIT state, I set my system clock ahead by a year, then set it back. Can't help you with the database problem, but thought I'd point out that changing the system real time clock won't help you to time out connections. Network statcks use monotonic clocks or timers that are immune to "time warps". ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Urgent Help Required- Installation
Hi Daryl this did not work. it gave a conflict with the exisiting installed packages. On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Daryl Tester wrote: python-devel is an RPMism (which means you won't find it on python.org). On my RedHat 6.1 box, it's python-devel-1.5.2-7.rpm . chkconfig, according to "rpm -qf `which chkconfig`", is owned by chkconfig-1.0.7-2. Regards, Daryl Tester Parag Mehta[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Administrator. Puretech Internet Pvt. Ltd.http://puretech.co.in/ 77 Atlanta. Nariman Point. Mumbai - 400021. India.Tel: +91-22-2833158 Support is now available thru our Web Based Support System. http://support.puretech.co.in ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
