Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:55, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: FWIW, I'm scheduled to sprint on finishing my cleanup of ZPublisher.WSGIResponse with the WebLion guys at or around PSE in May. Cleanup, really? Since the repoze effort reimplemented the publisher I had the feeling that the

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)

2010-04-01 Thread Vincent Fretin
+1 for the summaries, I read them. Thanks for writing them! Vincent ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: What's the next step? I'd love to see some roadmapping ala that you did for Plone 5, in particular to discuss our WSGI story (which I'm interested in helping out with if others can help

[Zope-dev] IAbsoluteURL for browser view should contain @@?

2010-04-01 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
Hi, the explicit way to address a view is using the /@@viewname namespace traversal. An IAbsoluteURL for a browser view returns an URL without the @@ (i.e. /foo/bar/view instead of /foo/bar/@@view). I think this should be changed so that the URL contains the @@. If you agree with this, where

Re: [Zope-dev] IAbsoluteURL for browser view should contain @@?

2010-04-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:25:09AM +0200, Christian Zagrodnick wrote: the explicit way to address a view is using the /@@viewname namespace traversal. An IAbsoluteURL for a browser view returns an URL without the @@ (i.e. /foo/bar/view instead of /foo/bar/@@view). I think this should be

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:41:17AM +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: There's no big roadmap yet, but I have some ideas :) snip All that said, we'll change plans if something comes up and a better plan suggests itself. The above list is obviously non-exclusive, so if someone else has anything he

[Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, I'm not sure if this is a Python issue or a zope issue. We're getting a segfault on 64-bit SuSE Linux (SLES 11), originating from z3c.autoinclude, which in turn called zope.configuration's include / implementation. This calls expat, which then crashes (no error, log message, or core file,

Re: [Zope-dev] IAbsoluteURL for browser view should contain @@?

2010-04-01 Thread Jacob Holm
Marius Gedminas wrote: Are you sure that most views provide IBrowserView these days? URL traversal looks them up as multi-adapters providing just Interface. True and you will almost never see a view class using implements(IBrowserView) directly. Still, if you use the browser:view or

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Any tips on how to debug or similar experiences would be appreciated! If you're on some Unix flavor, you should be able to deconstruct the return code from the runzope process to determine if the app was killed by a

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Any tips on how to debug or similar experiences would be appreciated! If you're on some Unix flavor, you should be able to deconstruct the return code from the runzope process to determine if the

Re: [Zope-dev] IAbsoluteURL for browser view should contain @@?

2010-04-01 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
On 2010-04-01 12:31:10 +0200, Jacob Holm j...@improva.dk said: Marius Gedminas wrote: Are you sure that most views provide IBrowserView these days? URL traversal looks them up as multi-adapters providing just Interface. True and you will almost never see a view class using

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 6 OK, 1 Unknown

2010-04-01 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Mar 31 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Thu Apr 1 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 7 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 1 from ct at gocept.com. Unknown --- Subject: FAILURE: Repository policy check found errors in 715 projects From: ct at gocept.com Date:

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)

2010-04-01 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
* Christian Theune c...@gocept.com [2010-03-31 17:16]: we decided to keep going with the meetings, so I'd be happy to see you guys next week in #zope. I'm all in favor, it seems to me the meetings really help in moving things along. For those of you who can't/don't participate in those

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it is. The pdb rabbit hole ended at pyexpat.c. I can't see what's going on there, but when I did 'r' it blew up. If you can point me at the ZCML file you were trying to parse (or email it to me

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I don't think I'll be able to work on it, but I think it's worth consideration: Unicode issues with Zope 2.12.  I've seen these on at least three different Zope 2 sites built with a combination of TTW page templates,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: - Five deprecation +1 - sounds hairy, though. Getting rid of the Zope 2 specific ViewPageTemplateFile and BrowserView (already done, I guess) would be a good starting point. With Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 01.04.2010, 15:30 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: With Zope 2.12 BrowserView is basically done. You can now import the BrowserView class from zope.publisher.browser instead of the one from Five. But ZCML directives still use the Five class, to ensure code using fancy

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:55, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: FWIW, I'm scheduled to sprint on finishing my cleanup of ZPublisher.WSGIResponse with the WebLion guys at or around PSE in May. Cleanup, really? Since

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 01.04.2010, 15:30 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: With Zope 2.12 BrowserView is basically done. You can now import the BrowserView class from zope.publisher.browser instead of the one

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it is. The pdb rabbit hole ended at pyexpat.c. I can't see what's going on there, but when I did 'r' it blew up. If you can point me at the ZCML file you were trying to parse (or

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 01.04.2010, 16:11 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: The class you get from any ZCML directive is going to be the one from Five using the Five.bbb.AcquisitionBBB mix-in. It emulates enough of Acquisition without actually using it. You cannot opt-out of that bit of bbb

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: - Five deprecation +1 - sounds hairy, though. Getting rid of the Zope 2 specific ViewPageTemplateFile and BrowserView (already done, I guess) would be a good

Re: [Zope-dev] NEO High Performance Distributed Fault Tolerant ZODB Storage

2010-04-01 Thread Vincent Pelletier
Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 18:32:31, vous avez écrit : A few questions that you may want to add in a FAQ. We started that page and will publish it very soon, based on most points you raised. Other pages are also being worked on, such as an overview of a simple NEO cluster. - Why not include

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:47:36PM +0200, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I don't think I'll be able to work on it, but I think it's worth consideration: Unicode issues with Zope 2.12.  I've seen these on at least three

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: What's the next step? I'd love to see some roadmapping ala that you did for Plone 5, in particular to discuss our WSGI story (which I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 15:53, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: As you can see from the diffs, I gut sidetracked writing tests for HTTPResponse, since I needed to make changes to it to do the WSGI fix, and it was effectively untested. Very cool!

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 18:24, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 15:53, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: As you can see from the diffs, I gut sidetracked writing tests for HTTPResponse, since I needed to make changes to it to do the WSGI fix, and it was

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: What's the next step? I'd love to see some roadmapping ala that you did for Plone 5, in particular to discuss our WSGI story (which I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it is. The pdb rabbit hole ended at pyexpat.c. I can't see what's going on there, but when I did 'r' it blew up.

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: /me is deeply suspicious of *any* distro-provided python, ever. I'm also suspicious of 64-bit builds, given that I'm not using one on my dev machine. I've picked up the OpenSuSE installation ISOs; hopefully that's close

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:07:26PM +0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure if this is a Python issue or a zope issue. We're getting a segfault on 64-bit SuSE Linux (SLES 11), originating from z3c.autoinclude, which in turn called zope.configuration's include / implementation. This calls

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it is. The pdb rabbit hole ended at pyexpat.c. I can't see what's going on there, but

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:07:26PM +0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure if this is a Python issue or a zope issue. We're getting a segfault on 64-bit SuSE Linux (SLES 11), originating from z3c.autoinclude, which in turn called zope.configuration'sinclude /

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 18:24, Lennart Regebrorege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 15:53, Tres Seavertsea...@palladion.com wrote: As you can see from the diffs, I gut sidetracked writing tests for HTTPResponse, since I needed to make changes to it to do the

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Aspeli
Fred Drake wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Tres Seavertsea...@palladion.com wrote: /me is deeply suspicious of *any* distro-provided python, ever. I'm also suspicious of 64-bit builds, given that I'm not using one on my dev machine. I've picked up the OpenSuSE installation ISOs;

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-01 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Martin Given that its failing on a call to libc I would do a quick run with strace and ltrace. (In your case ltrace will be probably be more useful.) You will be able to see the calls into the libraries and you should see immediately if your segfault is inside expat or not. (ltrace output