Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Jim Fulton wrote: >> >>> Martijn Faassen wrote: > > [snip] > Right, lib/python/zope is actually Zope X3.0.0, and we didn't expect we'd

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] Right, lib/python/zope is actually Zope X3.0.0, and we didn't expect we'd need to *update* Zope X3.0 in order for it to work with Zope 2.8. The new ZODB version is having some repercussi

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: > >> Tim Peters wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> get_transaction() is more troublesome than _just_ that, alas: there >>> are about 160 instances of it across the stitched-in lib/python/zope, >>> and Products/Five, co

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8 -> svn usage

2005-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Langner wrote: > Hello, > > Tres Seaver wrote: > > >>When you use 'svn:externals', the referenced package itself is *not* >>part of the containing checkout; it is managed separately by the svn >>client (sort of like ESI and page fragments)

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8 -> svn usage

2005-03-31 Thread Wolfgang Langner
Hello, Tres Seaver wrote: > When you use 'svn:externals', the referenced package itself is *not* > part of the containing checkout; it is managed separately by the svn > client (sort of like ESI and page fragments). Yes this is true. But the differences between svn:externals and a copy are not

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Schulze wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:12:51 -0500, Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> [Tres] >> >>> - ZODBGuru uses 'svn rm' to zap the current ZODB on the trunk, >>>replacing it with an 'svn:external' link to your ZODB 3.4 ta

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
[Tres] ... > I'll have to take your word for that; are you saying that > 'svn:external' doesn't work by default in the windows SVN clients? Crossed in the mail; no problem here. ... > OK, that works for me. AFAIK, the branch should be ready to merge > "whenever"; all the recent work on it ha

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Peters wrote: > [Tres Seaver] > ... > >>Most of that work has been done on the trunk. The 'five-integration' >>branch changes consist largely of: >> >>- Setting up an 'svn:external' link to the Zope X3 3.0 repository >> (which is on a branch, pr

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
... [Tres] >> - Setting up an 'svn:external' link to the Zope X3 3.0 repository >> (which is on a branch, pruned to include only the packages which were >> actually released with 3.0). [Tim] > Just noting that this may create new but short-lived problems for > developers on Windows (can't te

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
[Tres Seaver] ... > Most of that work has been done on the trunk. The 'five-integration' > branch changes consist largely of: > > - Setting up an 'svn:external' link to the Zope X3 3.0 repository > (which is on a branch, pruned to include only the packages which were > actually released with 3

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > > > --On Dienstag, 29. März 2005 14:07 Uhr -0500 Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Regardless, what's the current status of this? Last I saw, Andreas >> announced a plan to release 2.8a2 this coming Friday evening

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Dienstag, 29. März 2005 14:07 Uhr -0500 Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Regardless, what's the current status of this? Last I saw, Andreas announced a plan to release 2.8a2 this coming Friday evening (according to my clock ), but AFAICT the five-integration branch is still distinct fr

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
Before I vanished for PyCon about two weeks ago, I was under the impression that merging Zope/branches/five-integration into Zope/trunk was imminent -- a matter of days, if not hours. Perhaps I was mistaken in that. Regardless, what's the current status of this? Last I saw, Andreas announced a p

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-21 Thread Florent Guillaume
Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Lloyd wrote: > > A lot of time was spent talking about these (legitimate) concerns - > > unfortunately it will probably take a little time to distill all > > of that communication to the community. But let me take a shot ;) > > > > There are se

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
Chris McDonough wrote: Yup, that makes sense. Are these assumed to also be the folks who will try to make sure that new Z3 releases make it in to Z2 via Five? I guess what I'm driving at is that I'd hate to eventually have a very old version of Z3 sitting inside of Zope 2 due to insufficient band

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris McDonough wrote: [snip] Please correct me if I'm wrong here but I get the sense that Five is less of a "migration path" from Z2 to Z3 than a way to integrate Z3 technologies (like views and adapters) into Z2 right now. Obviously allowing Z2 developers to use these things will give them a som

[Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-18 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 13:45, Brian Lloyd wrote: > A lot of time was spent talking about these (legitimate) concerns - > unfortunately it will probably take a little time to distill all > of that communication to the community. But let me take a shot ;) > > There are several different groups, wit

[Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
> Chris wrote: > I assume these caveats are spelled out here because Z3 > developers don't > want to slow down Z3 development to test/maintain Z2 compatibility. I > know a lot about Z2 code, but I know very little about Z3 code. I'd > like that to change, but it's likely that I'll just not have