Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 16:01 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 15:34 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 20:30 Uhr +0100 Stefan

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 7:36 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please explain why including all of docutils requires adjusting the paths. I did that already in an earlier mail last week. We include all of docutils in Zope 3 and don't adjust the paths. We *did* adjust

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 7:36 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please explain why including all of docutils requires adjusting the paths. I did that already in an earlier mail last week. You may think you did. We include all of docutils in Zope 3 and

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim Fulton] We include all of docutils in Zope 3 and don't adjust the paths. We *did*adjust docutils slightly. [Andreas Jung] No, Zope 3 ships only with the 'docutils' subdirectory of the Docutils package. [Jim] What is it lacking? I suppose it's the 'docs', 'extras', 'licenses' and

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Tim Peters wrote: ... Jim, while I personally don't care much, Zope3's repackaging of docutils doesn't meet license requirements to retain the original licenses in derivative works. Zope2's does, because it includes docutil's whole 'licenses' subdirectory (except for the GPL). At least as of the

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Tim Peters
[Tim Peters] Jim, while I personally don't care much, Zope3's repackaging of docutils doesn't meet license requirements to retain the original licenses in derivative works. Zope2's does, because it includes docutil's whole 'licenses' subdirectory (except for the GPL). [Jim Fulton] At least

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 11:08 Uhr -0500 Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Jim Fulton] We include all of docutils in Zope 3 and don't adjust the paths. We *did*adjust docutils slightly. [Andreas Jung] No, Zope 3 ships only with the 'docutils' subdirectory of the Docutils package. [Jim]

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 11:08 Uhr -0500 Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Jim Fulton] We include all of docutils in Zope 3 and don't adjust the paths. We *did*adjust docutils slightly. [Andreas Jung] No, Zope 3 ships only with the 'docutils' subdirectory of the

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-17 Thread Alan Milligan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And while we're talking about docutils, the delivered Reporter warning/error functions write directly to STDOUT. We have ReST functionality in Zpydoc, and we get loads and loads and loads of crap 'invalid unindent' messages streamed to STDOUT from the

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-17 Thread Andreas Jung
Please file a collector issue otherwise it might be forgotten. -aj --On Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 19:00 Uhr +1100 Alan Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And while we're talking about docutils, the delivered Reporter warning/error functions write

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Christian Theune
Just for a note: This just made me spend more than two very annoying hours debugging and fixing the zopeservice.py. Those changes are not meant to be done on a stable branch ... Am Montag, den 29.11.2004, 12:43 +0100 schrieb Stefan H. Holek: [docutils was moved from lib/python/docutils to

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 19:28 Uhr +0100 Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for a note: This just made me spend more than two very annoying hours debugging and fixing the zopeservice.py. Those changes are not meant to be done on a stable branch ... I disagree because

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Stefan H. Holek
*sound of me protesting noisily* Let me remind you of the Pope's decree: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2004-November/024073.html Stefan On 16. Dez 2004, at 20:14, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 19:28 Uhr +0100 Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 20:30 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sound of me protesting noisily* Let me remind you of the Pope's decree: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2004-November/024073.html I have not seen a proposal so far how to solve this issue that

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 20:30 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sound of me protesting noisily* Let me remind you of the Pope's decree: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2004-November/024073.html I have not seen a proposal so far how to

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 15:34 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 20:30 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sound of me protesting noisily* Let me remind you of the Pope's decree:

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 16:01 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 15:34 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 20:30 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-12-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2004-12-16 20:47 +0100: *sound of me protesting noisily* Let me remind you of the Pope's decree: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2004-November/024073.html I have not seen a proposal so far how to solve this issue that works with a complete Docutils package and

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-11-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Montag, 29. November 2004 12:43 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [docutils was moved from lib/python/docutils to lib/python/third_party/docutils/docutils and an ugly sys.path hack employed] Why oh why do we always have to make it harder to start up Zope (instead of making

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-11-29 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2004-11-29 12:59 +0100: Independent of its location there is a need to adjust sys.path to make imports working (it does not matter if it is under lib/python or lib/python/third_party). A much clearer approach (than sys.path tweaking) would be to modify the imports for

Re: [Zope-dev] Why third_party/docutils?

2004-11-29 Thread Jim Fulton
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Montag, 29. November 2004 12:43 Uhr +0100 Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [docutils was moved from lib/python/docutils to lib/python/third_party/docutils/docutils and an ugly sys.path hack employed] Why oh why do we always have to make it harder to start up