Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: "semi-stretchable" Would be nice if IE supported min-width and max-width in css. It doesn't. The only way I've seen anyone get that to work in IE is with some nasty javascript hack. We can keep going down this road though, fine with me. We'll be here for literally we

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is. Zope Foundation Design 1, Version 1 While I really like the colours in general, I find the gray of the "Zope Foundation" in the logo image not right. Either should be dark

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/4/06, Tom Von Lahndorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: p.s. Lennart, 1600 wide? Are you serious? Regardless of monitor size, do you actually leave your browser window open to that size? Hmm. Nah, you are probably right, if it's that wide you don't. I have 1200, though, and I have the browser

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
"semi-stretchable" Would be nice if IE supported min-width and max-width in css. It doesn't. The only way I've seen anyone get that to work in IE is with some nasty javascript hack. We can keep going down this road though, fine with me. We'll be here for literally weeks and months going

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: An alternative would be to have separate designs for Foundation and the rest of the site. Anyone have opinions on whether this is a good or bad idea? I was under the impression that the two were separate and we were trying to decide on a design for the foundation first,

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Sep 2006, at 11:01, Martijn Faassen wrote: Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: o The simple nature of the site means a thinner page is more appropriate. Most of the content will be text that is easier to read the less wide the page is. This

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Sep 2006, at 10:26, Martijn Faassen wrote: o Trading in having the space on the sides for less control over all page layouts. I'm going for functional control in this case over a prettier layout. o Th

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Tom, Thinking about this item some more, I thought I'd talk a bit about what we're trying to accomplish. Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: o The simple nature of the site means a thinner page is more appropriate. Most of the content will be text that is easier to read the less wide the

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/4/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is 800x600 that common these days? Hardly by people that would be interested in Zope, right? Trying it again on a 1200x1024 screen, with a window not full-screen so it's more like 1024 (my usual browser side), I st

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Sep 2006, at 10:26, Martijn Faassen wrote: o Trading in having the space on the sides for less control over all page layouts. I'm going for functional control in this case over a prettier layout. o The current page is lai

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/4/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is 800x600 that common these days? Hardly by people that would be interested in Zope, right? Anyway, I think the important decision here is to make it readable. And that means that the content column should not fill out the whole page. On a

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is. Thanks for doing this work. Zope Foundation Design 1, Version 1 * Try the nav. * Updated the colors of the nav to make it stand out more. * Added the "e

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-03 Thread Darryl Cousins
Hi Tom, Bit of a problem with navigation menu in Firefox 1.5.0.4 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060406 Firefox/1.5.0.4 (Debian-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-1) Sorry I don't have time to debug it. I have attached a cropped screenshot - somehow text is overlapping. When I select

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2 Sep 2006, at 14:38, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://www.modscape.com/zope Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is. Works without any visible flaws under Safari and OmniWeb and looks very nice, clear and simple. P

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
Perfect! (on windows, tested with firefox and ie) ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-02 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
http://www.modscape.com/zope Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is. Zope Foundation Design 1, Version 1 * Try the nav. * Updated the colors of the nav to make it stand out more. * Added the "extras" box to the top right hand side of the main column.

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Withers
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Im trying to avoid things like: - I dont like that color. (Unless its really nasty this is 100% subjective) - Fixed width vs. Fluid layouts. (This debate has been around since tables. We need to just pick one. For every person that doesnt like the space on the side of

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: - What content do we need and where should it go. I'm working on the content itself, so no need to concern yourself too much with this during the design phase, except where it's needed to flesh out the design aspects, of course. As I already mentioned, I think

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Sorry Chris, I didnt mean to harsh on you. That was meant in fun as much as it is in truth. I dont mind any negative feedback, but what Im looking for more like: - What content do we need and where should it go. - Suggestions for better functionality (like the title bars of a table should

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Withers
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Here we go again. Step 1. Propose a project to the Zope community. Step 2. Plone sucks / Plone is great battle begins, everyone complains about what they dont like. Step 3. No actual work ever gets done. Step 4. Repeat in 6 months. Er, Tom, you asked for feedback...

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > > Here we go again. > > Step 1. Propose a project to the Zope community. > Step 2. Plone sucks / Plone is great battle begins, everyone complains > about what they dont like. > Step 3. No actual work ever gets done. > Step 4. Repeat in 6 months. Hey Tom, thanks for yo

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 8/28/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * I get text flowing into each other in the sidebar. "About The Foundation" overlaps whatever is on the next line, with the word "Foundation" on the next line. There's another such instance lower down, where it says "F

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 8/28/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * I get text flowing into each other in the sidebar. "About The Foundation" overlaps whatever is on the next line, with the word "Foundation" on the next line. There's another such instance lower down, where it says "Foundation..Projects?" (c

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope New "Foundation" page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so far. Looks nice. Some comments: * I get text flowing into each other in the sidebar. "About The Foundation" overlaps whatever is on the next line, with the word "Foundation"

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Here we go again. Step 1. Propose a project to the Zope community. Step 2. Plone sucks / Plone is great battle begins, everyone complains about what they dont like. Step 3. No actual work ever gets done. Step 4. Repeat in 6 months. On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Tom Von

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Withers
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope New "Foundation" page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so far. Personally, I hate sites that leave whacking great margins either ide of the actual content. Not sure about the colours or shadows either. And the left nav doesn't feel

Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Aug 2006, at 15:57, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: http://modscape.com/zope New "Foundation" page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so far. Looks and works nice on Safari as well. Should be easy to take that and fill it, even with just

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-26 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
http://modscape.com/zope New "Foundation" page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so far. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Looks like the first design is the preferred one. Okay, let's stick with design 1 then, it appears we got a consensus about this from looking at the thread. Maybe I just liked the second because it was the most recent. You're points below are all good. I'll try to

[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-23 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Looks like the first design is the preferred one. Maybe I just liked the second because it was the most recent. You're points below are all good. I'll try to work them all into a couple of new versions and set up some sub pages as well. As far as the content in the main area I haven't rea