Jim Fulton wrote:
I don't want to try to make paste deploy or setuptools,
use ZConfig. There are other tools out there that use
ConfigParser,
Yay! Lowest common denominator programming :-(
I'd like to be able to use configuration files for the
test runner, but I really don't want ZConfig to
Jim Fulton wrote:
Would it be possible to write a configuration file that loaded
it's own schemas?
Not sure what you mean...
For example, suppose I wanted to configure
zope and twisted, could I do something like:
import zope.app.appsetup
import zope.app.twisted
import
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 3/10/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For instance, one that looks like this:
zope:annotation for=IBar factory=Foo /
That doesn't look like configuration.
What does it look like to you?
If hooking up adapters is considered to be configuration, why
Jim Fulton wrote:
Log message for revision 65931:
Redeprecated a number of things that didn't generate warnings
before. Sigh. Also fixed all the depecation warnings generated by
running the zope.component tests.
...
Added: Zope3/branches/jim-adapter/src/zope/component/back35.py
Chris Withers wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
I'd like to be able to use configuration files for the
test runner, but I really don't want ZConfig to be a
dependency of the test runner. I also don't want to
go through all of the gymnasics required to develop a ZConfig
schema just for the test
Jim Fulton wrote:
Have you written a ZConfig schema?
Yup, a few, as well as adding a couple of options to zope.conf, which
totally abuses ZConfig :-/
Have you tried to read the
documentation on writing one?
Yup :-)
Have you writtem an application
that uses ZConfig?
Yup, couple...
I would like to update Docutils for Zope 2 trunk and Zope 3 trunk to v
0.4.0.
Any objections for
- importing docutils as top-level module on svn.zope.org
- replacing src/docutils with an svn:externals definition
?
Andreas
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Jim Fulton wrote:
Have you written a ZConfig schema? Have you tried to read the
documentation on writing one? Have you writtem an application
that uses ZConfig? If you had, I think you'd know what I was
talking about.
I have. Our chunk of our schema.xml is over 600 lines including comments
On Monday 13 March 2006 06:20, Martijn Faassen wrote:
In your example, the ZCML doesn't show that we actually are setting up
an annotation, and it doesn't show for what we're setting up an
annotation for in the first place either. It's one intrepretation of
ZCML that it should show these
Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Friday 10 March 2006 10:19, Martijn Faassen wrote:
What do people think?
+1 We use this pattern for every annotation in SchoolTool and it gets old
really quick. One argument that could be made is that the code in the
function could be in the
Benji York wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
[snip]
A second issue seems to me a bug in the javascript. When I use
StandaloneSortFormatter I can click on the title of a column to sort
to see a sorted view. This works wonderfully well. Unfortunately the
javascript is a bit simplistic in that it
Hi there,
In this mail I'd like to make explicit some competing design influences
on ZCML.
The first interpretation of what ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that provides abstract directives for
configuring Zope applications. If we're setting up a page, we use the
page directive.
On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
[...]
Thanks for looking into this Martijn. We have some internal versions
of a sortable zc.table factory that take a different approach, and
are not using the client-side part of the zc.table code much at all.
If you're willing to
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-3-13 17:15 +0100:
...
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters, utilities, security requirements, and little else. Everything
Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-3-12 15:54 -0500:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-3-11 18:03 -0500:
...
Where is this documented?
I do not know. I saw a feature description in the mailing list.
Fred and Tres (the authors) should be able to tell you whether
there is a formal
On 3/13/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note, that configuration files should be understand and
adaptable by administrators. Therefore, they should be readable
and understandable -- without an understanding of the implementation
(but with reading of the component documentation).
I
Martijn Faassen wrote:
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters, utilities, security requirements, and little else. Everything
else should be done in
On 3/13/06, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 13 March 2006 10:59, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Note, that configuration files should be understand and
adaptable by administrators. Therefore, they should be readable
and understandable -- without an understanding of the implementation
On Monday 13 March 2006 10:59, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-3-13 17:15 +0100:
...
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters,
On 3/13/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-3-13 17:15 +0100:
...
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters,
On 3/13/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters, utilities, security
It looks like revision 65953 (updated to Docutils 0.4.0) broke the
unit tests. For details see
http://buildbot.zope.org:8002/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Linux%20zc-buildbot/builds/382/test/0
Andreas, do you have any idea why that might be?
--
Benji York
Senior Software Engineer
Zope Corporation
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:16:17PM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote:
| And I think it's
| very important for the Python code to say what it does, so when I come
| back to a module five months later I'm not staring at MyFactory going
| yeah, but what is it?
One thing that must not pass by unnoticed is that
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:16:17PM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote:
| And I think it's
| very important for the Python code to say what it does, so when I come
| back to a module five months later I'm not staring at MyFactory going
| yeah, but what is it?
One thing that must not
Martijn Faassen wrote:
...
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for configuring the component architecture and security:
adapters, utilities, security requirements, and little else.
Right.
Everything
else should
Dieter Maurer wrote:
...
Note, that configuration files should be understand and
adaptable by administrators. Therefore, they should be readable
and understandable -- without an understanding of the implementation
(but with reading of the component documentation).
As Jeffrey pointed out (and
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:14:08PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote:
You're aware of the DRY principle, right? ZCML is repetitive, and
repetitive is wrong.
We tend to think that repetition is *always* wrong, but in other fields
there are cases in which it depends who the reader is, and how the
Florian Lindner wrote:
I think ovarall, Phillip should support those named layers.
That feedback is a little late. The proposal had been around for months!
By the way, from what I read in the old layer code (which seemed to be
yours), I got the impression that named layers and skins were slated
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:40:09PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote:
| I would suggest that is a component architecture feature, not a ZCML
| feature. If Zope were a hardware device, the CA would be the wiring and
| ZCML would be the schematic diagram.
Great point!
--
Sidnei da Silva
Enfold
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 3/10/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For instance, one that looks like this:
zope:annotation for=IBar factory=Foo /
That doesn't look like configuration.
No, it's an on/off switch. Me likesss it.
Philipp
Marius Gedminas wrote:
I'd prefer
from zope.annotation.adapter import AnnotationAdapter
getFoo = AnnotationAdapter(for_=IBar,
interface=IFoo,
factory=Foo,
key=FOO_KEY)
# I suppose
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Jeff Shell wrote:
On 3/13/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2006-3-13 17:15 +0100:
...
A newer interpretation of ZCML is:
ZCML is a configuration language that configures a number of basic
directives for
--On 13. März 2006 16:49:27 -0500 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like revision 65953 (updated to Docutils 0.4.0) broke the unit
tests. For details see
http://buildbot.zope.org:8002/Zope3%20trunk%202.4%20Linux%20zc-buildbot/b
uilds/382/test/0
Andreas, do you have any idea why
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