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. a ZODB-based
document storage
- There is a similar project by Morten W. Petersen that also will feature a
ZODB-based message storage that will be searchable, Catalog-aware etc.
Joachim.
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umber of "." equals the number of entries the method should pass.
Also, dtml-var "ldapmethod(sn='Werner')" results in things like "[, ]", again
the number of empty elements is correct, they just shouldn't be empty ...
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Hi!
I just got reminded of the Zope Internet Explorer WYSIWYG editor. It still
can be found at
http://www.zope.org/Members/johanc/ZIE
... and for anybody using IE 5.x it is a very cool thing, even if it is just
intended to be a basic demo.
I'd like to know if anybody is still working on that
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I'm beginning to wonder if
content management and system administration should be split out into
separate subsystems. Or if a CMS Tool Kit should be developed.
(workflows,
syndication, etc...).
We (iuveno) are currently preparing a major project to write a full-featured
CMS on base of
re it correctly if you want to.
Joachim
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manager of the DB
That means building a DA should be straightforward (I just don't know if the
modules are threadsafe already ...).
Any feedback welcome ...
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Look at Morten Petersen's ZopeGUM project
(http://www.zope.org/Members/morphex). It has POP3. The interface is still
more or less missing, but Morten is advancing quite well ...
Also see my comments below ...
Joachim
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To:
how to. This works well and Apache serves Zope pretty well and we can even
use SSL (there are some issues to be resolved that I suspect are due to
misconfiguration on our server). However, I can always access Zope
directly
using port 8080 (or whatever port where ZServer is listening to)
FYI - someone has noticed a problem with the posted
2.2.3 release that needs looking into, so I've unlisted
it for the time being. I'll send out a note and re-list
it after we dig into this a bit...
Oh no, not this one again ...
How good that I learned my lesson from the infamous 2.1.x
On Tuesday 26 December 2000 21:53, albert boulanger wrote:
Dose anyone have a product or modification to the user's page in the
PTK to behave like the user customizable layout you get at sites like
mynetscape.com? This would work with RSS and OCS syndication sources
(as well as others).
We
Are you sure Tux will help in conjunction with Zope ? AFAIK Tux can only
handle static html pages and nothing more. Any request to dynamic pages
(and I wold consider any Zope powered system being 100% dynamic) has to
be passed to another (user-level) webserver. So IMHO in the case of Zope
- You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates.
This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP,
while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an option, and it
always opens up more than necessary)
what exactly does SSH open
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 15:41, Martijn Pieters wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote:
Are you planning a manage_install for products?
The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through
the management interface, no need for ftp.
Doesn't have to be a Zope product. Not even Python for that matter. Just as
long as it is possible to _integrate_ with a zope site.
Depends on WHEN you need it ...
By end of January/early February we'll have a groupware thingy ready that
will do things like holiday planning etc. (and much
On Wednesday 10 January 2001 10:04, Francois-regis Chalaoux wrote:
It was a great idea to get the list of product sort on date in download
zone. Today appears only categories and product annonced in news.
So, is it a maintenance period or a stable presentation of products ?
There is a link
Is the Zope log file in Common Log File Format?
Yes.
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Hi!
I'm getting this or similar errors quite frequently these days:
Proxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /foo.
Reason: Document contains no data
Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was
Indra Gunawan wrote:
Hello,
could anyone tell me how to make connection string to MySQL in Linux?
I use Zope 2.3 and I've tried the
database@[host] username password
This should work. Your problem is probably somewhere else. Are you sure
that the database adapter, database etc. are all
Can anyone tell me how to use DTML to get at the URL for the document
being displayed?
dtml-var URL
Sometimes, things can be so easy ;-)
Joachim.
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- You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates.
This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP,
while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an option, and it
always opens up more than necessary)
what exactly does SSH open
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 15:41, Martijn Pieters wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote:
Are you planning a manage_install for products?
The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through
the management interface, no need for ftp.
Hi!
There is a little Bug in the new GUI: If you creat a new Folder that is
empty, only "There are currently no items in foo" is displayed. So you
can't import stuff before you have created an object in the folder. The
import/export tab has also gone.
Cheers
Joachim.
Tom Vijlbrief wrote:
Hi,
I've added the rename capability to the Zope FTP-server,
so I could use the KDE FTP client (this is a known Zope bug).
I attached the 3 modified files (from the 2.2.5 src distro).
Dear people at DC! Please get that into the CVS ASAP. This is a very big
issue
Hi!
Is there anyone who has tried using Zope on QNX? I have a request for
using Zope in an embedded environment.
Thanks!
Joachim
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Zope 2.3 and creating the correct object types (has been discussed
earlier, I think):
There is a bug with this that only becomes visible with some FTP clients
like the KDE2 Konqueror: If the clients do partial uploads and renaming
(which finally works), the type is not recognized correctly.
Hi!
We are currently developing a groupware system with Zope. As usual, the options
for the storage back-end are using a SQL DB (postgres, ...) or ZODB.
I know that this question has been asked a thousand times. But I'll repeat it
for our specific situation:
SQL or ZODB+ZCatalog, which one
ut it: Stephan can give you the code. We
will also set up a CVS, but this will not be done in the next couple of days
...
Cheers,
Joachim Werner
CEO iuveno AG
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What can I do to maximize the peformance of a dtml-in statement?
When iterating over a 2000 row database query, it takes about 20
seconds - time mostly spent doing security checks, and calling
__getitem__ in DT_InSV.py. Is the performance of dtml-in just slow?
-Brett
Another
Hi!
We have this in the logs of a brand new 2.3.1:
--
2001-04-06T03:16:10 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for
'\000\000\000\000\000\000\354\222'
Traceback (innermost last):
File /var/lib/zope/iuvenoProducts/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 508,
in setstate
AttributeError: 'None'
Hi!
Sorry for the site going up and down all the time. We experienced very
strange Zope stability problems. But it seems to have been up for the last
couple of hours now ;-)
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The symptoms are as follows:
1. Go to a given URL, which doesn't respond (browser sits and spins)
2. Doing a 'top' on the server shows python nowhere to be seen (so it's
not
infinite-loop-processor-hogging)
3. ps shows the python threads are all still there, but none of them will
respond.
Hi!
Anyone seen this before?
It happens when I want to access a folder's manage_access page. The thing
worked all the time, and I don't know what could have changed that. The Zope
version is 2.3.1. source version with Python 1.5.2. There also seem to be
problems with some of the permissions set
Additional remark: It goes away if I remove all ZClasses from the folder.
Strange ...
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You know, it might be possible to get a team together to implement
this. How many out there would be interested in pursuing it further?
IMHO it's not as much work as it sounds at first. Zope being so
object-oriented, you really can replace one of its most fundamental
assumptions (an
Hi!
Do you know that there already is a project for OR-Mapping in Zope
(actually
there are two ...)?
Yes, and I think the projects need to look into replacing parts of ZODB
rather than adding complexity. ZODB has pieces that can be split apart
and replaced as needed, such as caching,
So, if I had a.n.other SQL table containing some attributes, how would you
see
that mappign to Zope objects?
What meta_type would they be?
Where would they show up?
That's why we need an API and can't just do everything transparently ;-)
We have the conept of SmartAttributeSheets (names
But storage of binary pickles was never the intention anyway. I
created
a little interface that would allow you to store different classes in
different PostgreSQL tables. Before I got to implementing anything,
Is this much like the ZPatterns approach?
Which part of ZPatterns are
The other motivations for an RDBMS are (1) people have existing schemas
and want Zope to access the same data as their existing apps, and they
want it to be transparent, and (2) tables with millions of entries are
easily stored in Zope but the perception is that the catalog isn't as
fast as
As a matter of fact, we did a quick CMF demo that has the content of the
zope list, zope-dev, and many of the other zope.org lists, and the
comp.lang.python list for the past few years. The catalog searches are
very very fast, i can't recall if the demo was set up with some
interesting
But isn't Python a decent query language? Isn't it nice to be able to
have
all of the facilities of Python at your disposal when manipulating data,
rather than hoping that whatever database you are using doesn't have a
brain-damaged implementation of SQL?
Most of the time nobody will need
It sounds like you are tackling a lot of things at once. You might
consider dividing into separate projects.
Yep, that's what is happening right now. We are still collecting feature
requests. Then we will sort them out. A lot of the stuff will also be
useful in different contexts than we have
This is true in the ZODB, but can be complicated by acquisition. If an
object can acquire itself, it can cause issues. Plus it becomes
difficult to know whether objects are clones or just identical
instances, although this can be mitigated by exposing their Python
instance id.
Acquisition
Probably I'm daft because it is Friday night, but AFAIK ZODB and most
OODB's
store an object only once, keyed by its object id. The rest is just
references
through that oid, so objects that belong to more than one container can be
added to all these containers and n:m relations are
Now, it may be useful to provide a management interface for defining the
schema mapping. I haven't approached that yet; AFAICT this is where the
work done on SmartObjects and DBObjects would be very useful. Initially
I was planning for people to code the mapping purely in Python so we
My thought on this, is that you will be forced to explicitly consider the
nature of this relationship and its storage at the application level. If
you write explicitly for ZODB, you might use a BTree, for example. Or
perhaps you'd have some kind of global container for the Tasks, with a
My thought on this, is that you will be forced to explicitly consider the
nature of this relationship and its storage at the application level. If
you write explicitly for ZODB, you might use a BTree, for example. Or
perhaps you'd have some kind of global container for the Tasks, with a
What we experience with CoreSessionTracking:
We have a manage mode in the Kontentor CMS hacky thing (no, it is NOT a
product yet ;-)). It works well for some time (i.e. if I click on it, the
system switches to manage mode and stays in manage mode until I click
again), but from time to time it is
However, a much more helpful report would be
one which provides a repeatable test case which invariably reproduces
the problem instead of one which states the symptoms and effects of the
problem.
I know, but that's why the errors are called random: They are not easy to
replicate ...
dtml-let data=SESSION.getSessionData()
manage=REQUEST.get('manage_content') or
data.get('manage_content')
dtml-unless manage
dtml-call data.set('manage_content','NO')
/dtml-unless
dtml-in data.keys()
dtml-let si=sequence-item
dtml-call REQUEST.set(si, data[si])
Error Type: TypeError
Error Value: unsliceable object
Have you tried to use the newest Zope version? In 2.3.0 or so there was a
bug that gave us the unsliceable object error for ZClasses that are based
on Image or File (which should be similar to the DTMLDocument case).
Newer versions work
Coincidently, I was just trying to edit a file on the filesystem with an
FTP
client going thru Zope/FTP and a LocalFS. It didn't work. The LocalFS
instance didn't look like a directory to FTP so FTP could neither read nor
write to the directory.
Does that throw a monkey wrench into your
Do you mean generating Python code from ZClasses? For example making and
editing a Product over the web?
Kind of. Probably not full-fledged Products, but ZClass-like Classes that
define values for property sheets, include Methods, inherit from certain
base classes etc. ... well, maybe I'll end
this distinction so that all components can be edited via the
filesystem
and
live in the object database.
This does worry me. I think I understand at least one motivation (ZEO),
but...
Well, as long as it doesn't compromise my ability to write Zope python
code
using filesystem tools,
Hi!
We see FTP and especially WebDAV as the best fit technoligies for the
content owners; we spent a good deal of effoert on cleaning up
FTP/WebDAV
for yesterday's CMF release, for instance.
I think you are misunderstanding what I mean with enabling power users:
With WebDAV and FTP one can
Has anybody seen a product that lets you make the equivalent of a symbolic
link in unix in the Zope DB?
http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/Symlink
(VERY experimental ...)
Joachim
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That's not the behaviour I'd expect. Can anyone confirm this is a
bug?
As LEE Kwan Soo has already said, it is not a bug, but a clever (too
clever?) feature that should maybe not be enabled by default. Every second
week or so somebody runs into this and thinks it is a bug.
To the DC people:
Transparent Folders are used very often at iuveno. And we would like to do
so in the future because they really provide an easy way to structure
objects in folders. But with Zope 2.3.3 we get errors like that when we
start an instance that uses Transparent Folders:
Traceback (innermost last):
Tomorrow I hope to release a version of TransparentFolders that works
around the problem, so you can wait for that instead if you like.
Cool! Could you maybe put the patch that currently is applied in
OFS/__init.py__ into a Hotfix? This would make it easier to use Transparent
Folders together
Is there any good reason why a Product inside the ControlPanel is the only
place a ZClass can exist? Why can't I have one in any folder?
I think it is perfectly logical that ZClasses are located in the Products
area. A folder is for instances of classes, and a ZClass is a class, not an
dtml-tree made me look good today :). Thanks DC!
But still it urgently needs a rewrite ;-)
Some issues:
- Only one tree per page (it should be an option to use core session or
unique cookies to enable more than one tree per page)
- The open/close icons are hard-coded
- A general one that
I do not agree with you:
a ZClass is both an instance (you can manage, modify, delete)
and a class (you can use as blueprint for object creation).
O.k., I CAN manage/modify/delete a ZClass, but it still is (conceptually) a
class, and only a class. You can manage/modify/delete Zope
Maybe you search python.org for Guido's metaclasses article.
It tells that a Python class can be both a class and an instance
and that this view has interesting applications.
You focus on the class aspects of a ZClass (a pattern for creating
instances providing them with basic common
/
Transparent_A
Method_A
Folder_B
Transparent_B
Method_A
Folder_C
Folder_B and Folder_C are non-transparent, Transparent_A and
Transparent_B are transparent.
The problem is when i say dtml-var Method_A in a Document which is in
Folder_C i got
I imagine that the group will decide rules on peer reviewing. For
comparison, the Mozilla group has very elaborate rules for checkins,
while Python has pretty much an innocent until proven guilty culture.
(That is, you check something in, and if somebody complains, it gets
removed.)
I
Vulnerability: attacking can get file list and directory
Tested on Win32 platform
Example:
telnet zopeserver 8080
PROPFIND / HTTP/1.0
enter
enter
enter
list files and directory
This tested on my site:
security.instock.ru 8080
This one really seems to be the old WebDAV is not
Question :
When I access to my folder by webdav protocol (win98 webfolder), I can
list
the folder content, but when I want to access to a file inside, Zope asked
to
me another authentification, then I can access to my file (wordd file
(.doc))
but only in read only mode.
This seems to be a
Hi Paul! Hi list!
In the last couple of weeks I have really looked forward for the CVS to be
finally opened. Not that I would be the first to be accepted as a
contributor (my Python is still lousy, as Stephan Richter could tell you
...), but I read things from ZC like We are too busy to get
Hi!
Stephan Richter has started to re-implement DateTime using mxDateTime a
couple of weeks ago. That should fix all the various problems with DateTime.
At Zope Corporation, Andreas Jung took care of that. So if you complain loud
enough, I guess the fix could go into the 2.5 release. It just
Hi!
Has anybody also had that with a Zope 2.4.1 instance (Linux)? It happens not
only with Metapublisher (as in the example), but seems to occur quite
randomly. It might be a problem with my local install, but even if it is, it
should not happen (as I just have some custom Products installed)
I'm not entirely sure why the idea of ZTables went away so completely.
Python tables in the ZODB combined with the catalog should make for an
interesting system to play with. Though perhaps there are products
out there that actually do this. Come to think of it, MetaPublisher
(not to be
By default, Zope adds the title and version properties, for which it
gets the value from version.txt and meta_type,
but does anyone know a way to add more?
This is only half an answer, but maybe it helps:
I am not quite sure if you can do that the easy way from Python. (I.e. just
define a
Hi!
Has anyone out there tried this already? Last we heard, Mailman was
a standalone CGI program, and in order to make it work with Zope you
had to run both Mailman and Zope behind another web server (such as
Apache).
Yes, but if you control the Mailman from Zope, you will of course not
Hi!
To be honest i would be happy for Zope 3 not to be backwards
compatible. Tidy it up, delete the unless code, dare i say it -
refactor. Yes so my products will break, well half a days refactoring
myself and i have a tidier more understandable project anyway.
YES, we need a new start.
Noone from Zope Corp seems to monitor the list to help out.
That is not my experience at all. I have received answers from Zope corps
several times. But sure, most of the answers you get come from the
community
members. Thats what a community is all about, and thats the hallmark of a
good
Does the fishbowl process address this for you?
http://dev.zope.org/Fishbowl/Introduction.html
From me, that'll be a resounding no.
Every single idea I've had for Zope has died somewhere in the fishbowl,
and not because people have turned round and
gone no, that's a crap idea. That
I seem to have to comment on most of the mails in this thread. Sorry for
that ;-)
Personally, I think ZC are trying very hard, but are not getting it
right. I'm also very sure they are taking this conversation
seriously. Brian responded very quickly to the userfolder 'api'
issues. They
Hi Paul!
I don't want to replace one group of people with a busy agenda with
another group of people with a busy agenda. We need a small group of
people that are willing to make a long-term commitment to
responsibility. These people can then tap into others that can commit
on an as-needed
IMO, Bugzilla won't fix these kinds of problems. I think the first step
is to refine what we have while finding better ways to work together.
We definitely need a ZOPE-based approach. What I really don't get is this:
We all seem to be building Zope-based systems for communities, public
Notification, which bugzilla offers, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!
Email notification is good enough, if I want that to beep my cellphone, I
just
send it to me genie.co.uk email address...
Yet another comment: That translates to We finally need MAILMAN integration
into Zope!
I mean,
I think there's another problem here: possibly the community isn't
large enough yet. There's already been a discussion on zope-coders
about how little those with commit priviledges are actually
committing, and the main reason is simply that no-one has enough
time.
This might be a bit
Where's the $99 version of Zope? The $499? The $1499? The
$25999? Zope Corp hasn't pulled that card out like many other
vendors have. There are actually many pieces of Zope that were
initially commercial add-ons (or intended to be) that are now all
open source.
I sometimes have the
When we first opened the fishbowl, it was with the certainty that we
wouldn't get it right immediately. That's why we went with the intentially
low-tech approach of a pile of Wikis. That first step actually worked
pretty well for a while until we hit critical-Wiki-mass and there were
Hi!
This is a totally different business model than the one Zope Corp. is
using
right now, but it might help refinancing the overhead a good community
needs
to have ...
Would it have to be done by ZC?
No, of course not.
And there could be more than one of course (though we'd need a
The second is pretty exciting as well. I saw a presentation in Paris by
Juan David Palomar, of Localizer fame. (The presentation is now up at
http://estce.act.uji.es:9673/localizer). The presentation impressed me
on the need to get someone into the core of Zope that knows all these
Of course there are hot spots. I have asked multiple times for help on the
mailing
lists and the Eurozope site to identify such related hot spots.
Also I had expect some input of the community regarding at unicode support
inside Zope. But there has been no feedback. It looks like no one
Hi!
Any ZCatalog experts out there?
I am suddenly getting this with a ZCatalog (it is actually a subclassed
version of the ZCatalog, almost a one-to-one copy of the CMF Catalog tool):
--
Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error
Hi!
This isn't a Catalog error, it's a ZODB error. It appears that your
ZODB data has beome inconsistent. You might want to try to run
fsrecover.py against it after making a backup to see if it detects any
errors.
I don't think so:
- fsrecover doesn't find anything
- the error occurs on
Hi!
This time I need some specialists to help ...
Here is some code from ZBabel Objects. ZBabel objects are folders that hold
localized versions of anything you want to internationalize and pass getting
attributes and calling objects to one of these localized versions depending
on your language
Doesn't seem to make any difference :-(
What does that option do?
class Rewrapper(Base):
def __init__(self, path):
self._path = path
def __of__(self, parent):
ob = parent
for p in self._path:
ob = getattr(ob, p) = HERE WE GET A
Hi!
I have tried to compile psycopg on a SuSE Linux 7.0 system, but it I simply
cannot get it done. Do you have some precompiled binaries you could post?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Joachim Werner
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Hi!
I don't have the resources to start something like that NOW, but I'd really
like to see work on an OpenOffice integration:
has anybody integrated/plans on intragration/experimented with
OpenOffice and Zope ?
YES.
- OpenOffice as a HTML Editor / Web-Frontend for Zope
I don't like that
Hi!
I finally managed to compile that beast. So I'll probably be the one to post
binaries ASAP ...
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Subject: [Zope-dev] Precompiled binaries
Hi!
I have two Zope 2.5 b2 installations on two seemingly identical machines,
both with PostgreSQL, ZPsyCopDA, and DBObjects. In the DBObjects demo, I am
getting THIS (see below) on one of the machines (the one with the slightly
older installation).
Very strange for me. What the hell is
Hi!
This is my first post in the new year, so best wishes for 2002 from Germany!
And on we go with my problem:
I have a ZClass-based Class derived from File. It holds PDF documents. SOME
(not all) of them do not auto-open in Acrobat Reader as they are supposed to
if MS IE 5.x is used. Opera
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Martijn fixed that problem some weeks ago. The fixes
Hi!
Just to answer my own question and complete the mail archive:
If you have problems with downloads that make use of the HTTP range
functionality (e.g. with the latest Acrobat Reader in MS IE), Zope 2.5 fixes
the problem (for me).
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Zope-Dev
Hi!
I have a problem concerning using versions and sessions together in Zope 2.5
beta 3:
As the Temporary Storage is incompatible with versions, it seems to me that
I can not at all use any session manipulating code in a method that might be
called under version control. This is very disturbing
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