"Joe" wrote:
>>The idea is to make a semi-high horsepower engine mod for the everyday
>>driver that wouldn't require changing the stock internals. At roughtly
>>180-190hp (with IMMEDIATE boost) this would make our car fun to drive,
>>and much cheaper than the turbo.

Then "Dick" wrote:

>Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't a turbocharged engine more thermally
>efficient than a supercharged engine. This would mean that a turbo  
>converts
>your chemical energy, (gas), into work, (hp) at a better rate than a
>supercharger.The plus side being you would use less gas to achieve the same
>level of power output in a turbocharged engine compared to that of a
>supercharged engine. The negative side being that you would have to wait 
>for
>the power since it is not (IMMEDIATE boost). They are many other pro's and
>con's to consider too. just throwing in my $.02

Jaivier is totaly correct in the fact the turbo's are more efficent and can 
produce more power.  Turbo kits are fully reliable if they are engineered 
and made correctly.  Superchargers are inferior from a power standpoint.  
Centrifugal superchargers like Vortech are even more laggy than 
turbochargers unless they are overdriven with a top end by pass valve in 
which case they are totlay inefficent.  Positive displacement superchargers 
like the Eaton used in JR kits have poor adiabatic efficency but have a nice 
fat powerband and are very pleasent to drive, feeling like a bigger stock 
engine.  The power potential is limited to perhaps 30-50 more hp with these 
kits.

Making a positive displacement supercharger kit is difficult because you 
need to either cast or heavily modify a stock manifold as well as machine 
drive pulleys and devise a off throttle bypass valve.  You must bypass all 
light throttle boost or the motor will soon blow up.

A centrifugal supercharger kit is easier because it packages better with the 
stock manifold but you still need to make brackets and drive pulleys., you 
still need to bypass off boost presure.  The centrifugal blower is easer to 
intercool also.  The main issue will be it's lag, it is like bad turbo lag 
without the power that the turbo can produce.

I have a lot of resourses avalible to me after being in the racing industry 
for many years, but I still won't do a supercharger kit.  I would rather 
leave it up to JR and Vortec who would do it better, if you can convince 
them that there is a market.

By the time you add economy of scale, the home made supercharger kit will 
have less power and be more expensive than a turbo kit as well as less 
powerful.

Mike
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