On Jul 17, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:

I would also suggest the same list. And in particular, if we don't make a lot of progress on INFO and rfc4474, we have wasted our time. Those two IMHO should cover 75% of our meeting time. Having a bunch of 10 minute presentations, each of which is on a topic that only three people care about, is not a good use of everyones time. Those two topics clearly have big impact on SIP as a whole and are of broad interest.

I don't disagree. In fact, I think you are absolutely right.

But while they are within the scope of our charter, neither INFO nor revision of RFC 4474 is a milestone on our charter. The other things we currently have on the agenda (except "keep") ARE milestone items. And we're LATE on most of them!

So either our charter is wrong, or we're out-of-scope in our interests.

I've previously tried to charter deliverables on both items and been shot down.

So what do you think we should do?

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Dean
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