Jordi the Gollum example was just a simplification of how people trying to
get into 3d think.



On Saturday, 8 March 2014, Cristobal Infante <[email protected]> wrote:

> I must clarify I was referring to students and young people getting into
> 3D. I have no problem learning other software out there, I do it all the
> time.
>
> Let's not forget that once they have full control of the universities and
> training institutions it will just be a one way road. They were already 90%
> there, but when I heard that the Bournemouth MA will probably go Maya is
> when the news really
> hit me. I studied there and still think softimage was the best
> choice for a 1 year course.
>
> We can of course try to change the course
> on our side by creating Modo/Houdini pipelines but the roots and new blood
> will be mostly Maya...
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 March 2014, Christoph Muetze <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ..my point, exactly.
>
> On 08/03/14 13:20, Angus Davidson wrote:
>
> Forgot to add the more important thing is that what AD didnt expect with
> this shitstorm is that all of the other communities are now talking, there
> are knowledge transfers and people are understanding that their perceptions
> of other packages may have been wrong. Things are moving a lot faster now
> as very skilled Softimage users are looking at other options. That leads to
> them writing tools  etc that makes the other packages better and will pull
> more people away from AD.
>
> I think they now realise that pissing off these types of people is not a
> wise decision.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Angus Davidson [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* 08 March 2014 02:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Good point well put
>
> I disagree
>
> 5 Years from now, Modo / Houdini / Fabric Engine will be the standard. I
> say this because they are agile, they listen to what their users want and
> they actively develop and have a coherent roadmap.
>
> With the rate that the industry is developing Maya will not be able to
> keep up.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Cristobal Infante [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* 08 March 2014 02:05 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Good point well put
>
> They have messed up really badly with us by the way the've handled this.
> But I don't really consider this a storm, a few guys ranting on a mailing
> list. CGsociety haven't even bothered to make this news.
>
> Why did they keep softimage for all this years? well simple, they were
> investing in a relationship with costumers. Now that the Foundry had
> started to gain ground it was time to act and think about this bright
> future.
>
> We are just too involved in the mess to see the whole picture. Think 5
> years from now, all I can see is Maya.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 March 2014, Daniel Kim <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I hope there is a company or someone else who can hire all SI
>     developers and make another next generation 3D software. I
>     remember when Lightwave shut down years ago, and they are back in
>     industry and shows great stuff, and even Modo. I really hope there
>     is a company or someone hires SI dev members...
>
>
>     -------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Daniel Kim
>     Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist
>     http://www.danielkim3d.com
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>
>
>
>
>     On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Jordi Bares
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>         Softimage, like SideEffect, 3DSMax and the rest are small
>         teams of very clever developers, 8-12 is the normal number of
>         developers for any app... that is a very small cost compared
>         with the cost of advertising and PR, believe me.
>
>         Regarding this implied direct relationship between pace of
>         development and resources, it is so so obscene it is insulting
>         to say that. By that rule all the software portfolio Autodesk
>         manages hinders everything they do, let's face it, they have
>         lots of products.
>
>         If the case is pace of development just hire a few more good
>         guys and make sure the effort does not go to waste by not
>         promoting it well.
>
>         The issue I have is that something does not add up... I still
>         don't understand the decision and the more I think about it,
>         the more suspicious it becomes.. .does not even seem a
>         coordinated well put plan that is causing all this storm (all
>         the handling has been awful and big companies tend to handle
>         these things with utmost care as it casts a horrible light to
>         the brand itself)
>
>         Just look at how Apple handled Shake, they discontinued it but
>         offer the possibility of buying the source code and carry on
>         using it, it was bad but at least was a clean exit. Also helps
>         that nuke was ready for prime time so felt like moving forw
>
>

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