I agree too, there has been a very positive attitude in terms of listening, implementing new tools in a Softimage-esque fashion which, given there were no previous experiences on the Houdini community, was a very wise approach to take rather than reinvent the wheel for the sake of it (hello render layers, passes & overrides ;-)
And indeed I agree with you that H16 and beyond are extremely appealing to me and surely enough. Jb > On 9 Feb 2017, at 12:50, Jonathan Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it's a combination of things. The feedback from XSI users that made > an early jump over to Houdini has definitely helped steer the direction of > development resources. But it's also a cultural thing within SideFX. They're > always actively listening to feedback with regards to how they can improve > Houdini within the framework of how Houdini functions at a fundamental level > (procedural operations throughout). I think this makes it an easier path for > XSI artists as there was an element of proceduralism in XSI long before ICE. > > Houdini Indie has made a huge difference to the SideFX feedback loop too > (especially since they've allowed third party rendering plugins). Much as > Houdini had a learning edition that was free to use, Houdini Indie brought a > richer range of artistic talent into the feedback loop. Independent artists > working in games, motion design or pure hobbyists became part of the active > users mix too. The traditional Houdini feedback loop was mainly talented TD's > in major FX studios with an academic background in computer engineering. > > The leap that a typical Modo or Lightwave artist has to make is still a > difficult one because they're so used to the liberating power of a fully > destructive workflow. But SideFX now seem to be understanding how to create a > direct modelling feel but with all the benefits of proceduralism. H15 brought > a wider range of artists into the Houdini family, I think H16 and beyond can > only grow that widening appeal beyond VFX. > > On 9 February 2017 at 12:25, Chris Marshall <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > It's interesting that a number of very tricky areas of 3d, like rock solid > booleans or muscle simulation, infinite oceans etc have been addressed all at > the same time. Has this happened as a result of throwing a load more > resources at the problem? It was mentioned 3 or 4 times that things started > to gain momentum about 18 months to 2 years ago. Not a coincidence there then. > > > > On 7 February 2017 at 17:50, Tim Crowson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > That is a hell of a release. > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:35 AM Jordi Bares <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Give them a year and let’s have a look again. ;-) > Jb > > > >> On 7 Feb 2017, at 15:52, Jonathan Moore <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I mentioned this over on the Modo beta forums, but it's also worth >> mentioning here. Houdini is never going to be a replacement for a direct >> modelling application because of the very nature of proceduralism. But since >> H14 there has been a concerted effort to improve the direct modelling user >> experience. Rigging in Houdini I think has reached a point where the >> procedural nature of Houdini is enhancing UX rather than diminishing it. And >> animation is at a place where as long as you don't attempt to recreate XSI >> approaches in Houdini it's providing a UX that caters to far more than VFX >> pipelines (in truth, animation still has a few kinks to work out but SESI >> are getting there). >> >> As long as you embrace the Houdini way of things, H16 is far closer to being >> a direct replacement for XSI than at any time since EOL was announced. And >> this is in large part due to SESI being far more focused on the needs of the >> growing and more diverse community than the likes of Autodesk will ever >> allow the Maya team to be. So many of the changes in H16 are a direct result >> of feedback from XSI 2 Houdini early adopters such as Jordi. And in >> fairness, the C4D community have added greatly to the Houdini UX over this >> time too (Houdini Engine has been a huge success for Maxon, and a virtual >> Trojan horse for SESI too). >> >> On 7 February 2017 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I mean that feeling of something different :) >> ᐧ >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> This build feels a lot like going form XSI 5 to 6 honestly... >> ᐧ >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Artur W <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I can believe even though autodesk was numbing us for years. >> I only wish i could learn faster. >> >> Artur >> >> 2017-02-07 15:57 GMT+01:00 Jordi Bares <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> This release is monumentally big… can’t believe what they have done in less >> than a year.. >> jb >> >>> On 7 Feb 2017, at 14:51, Artur W <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> 16 is very nice so far. >>> Doing some ocean for a project. >>> >>> ARtur >>> >>> 2017-02-07 15:32 GMT+01:00 Chris Marshall <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> Well I've got to say that watching the launch event is actually very >>> inspiring. >>> >>> >>> On 7 February 2017 at 10:33, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> He he >>> >>> I bet you can script one for them Brad ;) >>> >>> Morten >>> >>> >>> >>> > Den 4. februar 2017 klokken 16:08 skrev Bradley Gabe <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > That new feature list might be long and impressive in scope and function. >>> > But you have to ask yourself, did they bother to add a ViewCube? 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