On Sat, 1 May 2004 16:02:30 +0200, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael W.Cocke" >> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:32:48 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >At 05:23 PM 4/30/04 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote: >> >> > Could you perhaps be more specific about your problem? being >> >> > "considered a spammer" isn't a very specific problem >> >>Brett Miller explained it logically. My major complaint was that dial >> >>up users are considered as possible spamers if I were sending spam I >> >>would at least have a direct connection to the net. >> > >> >That's untrue.. dialup users are considered potentially spammers IF they >> >don't relay via their ISP's mailserver. >> >> and what (he asked with a straight face) are we supposed to do if our >> so-called ISPs don't offer a mail server? > >Can you give an example of an ISP in this situation?
Believe it or not, AT&T business DSL doesn't offer mail services (or DNS service) unless you spring for the 5 IP address plan - which costs $50.00 per month more than the single IP plan that I use. I would have to use their webmail system if I wanted to use their mail server. Not going to happen. >> My new policy is to send my mail where it needs to go. If it doesn't >> arrive, I refer the intended recipient to _THEIR_ ISP and tell them >> that it needs to be fixed. I'm all in favor of blocking spam, but >> sopme approaches are just plain stupid. > >In reality it isn't as stupid as it appears to you. Dynamic IPs change >"ownership" every time a new connection is made. There is an issue of >responsability. If spam arises from a dynamic ip how do you find out >who sent it? Not all ISPs keep or are interested in looking up >logs of dynamic ip assignments to progress spam reports. Not >accepting mail from dynamic ranges is remarkably effective at >stopping spam amongst other things. I agree that the dynamic IP issue is sticky - but that's what content filters are for, IMHO. No one in their right mind is going to pump 5000 emails out on a dialup line. Cable modems... hmmmm... I don't have a good answer. Mike- -- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,
