One thing to also consider is how the raw materials are being introduced into 
the process (open or closed process) and where they are stored, type of 
containers, what is done with emptied containers, where is the filling taking 
place and into what type of containers, where are filled containers stored?

A big thing I picked up at a recent Underwriter's meeting was the increase in 
use of PLASTIC containers, vessels and pallets being used in modern industrial 
facilities along with the unplanned short term storage for such items in areas 
not planned as storage areas when real estate gets tight.  

Emptied plastic totes and knock down crating create some unique fire fighting 
challenges.

The IBC also limits the amount of these materials in process areas, it's 
probably unlikely you'll exceed that qty for a IIIB in the sq. ft. of area you 
mentioned.  But also find out what the other ingredients will be and what is 
and isn't allowed for those items.




Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lg.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Pinigis
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Biodiesel mfg

Biodiesel is vegetable oil, and likely a Class IIIB combustible liquid.  You 
should question the classification considering that the flash point of 
vegetable oil is very high.  The following is from an FM document: "The closed 
cup flash point of the tested vegetable oil was 450°F (232°C)"

Even if this was an oil-cooking facility the density would only be 0.25 gpm/sf 
over 3,000 sq ft (per FM standard on oil cooking equipment).  

Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams - 
work
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Biodiesel mfg

I have been asked to look at some criteria for a small (2500 sqft) biodiesel 
processing facility. Someone (I'm not sure who) defined this as a Class !B 
flammable liquid and called for a 0.40 gpm/sqft density over the entire 
building area. While I'm not necessarily challenging this, I cannot find 
anything to verify it. NFPA 13 and 30 seem to focus more on storage than 
processing. Has anyone else run into this yet?

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
860-535-2080
www.fpdc.com 

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