Yes. You can’t have an FDC on the supply side of a pump. So regardless of when 
they are installed, it needs to comply with the standards. 

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> On Feb 2, 2018, at 6:03 AM, Kenneth Berman <thekennyber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I have an existing FDC at the hot box and add a pump later, then the FDC 
> must be moved to the pumphouse?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Dewayne Martinez 
>> <dmarti...@total-mechanical.com> wrote:
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Are you saying that if I put a control valve for the standpipe feed at the 
>> riser manifold and the FDC is connected to the riser manifold that I must 
>> also connect the FDC downstream of the standpipe feed control valve?  Is 
>> that in 14?  I have had a couple of AHJ’s make me put a control valve in 
>> over the years and I didn’t know it was wrong.  I thought it was just like 
>> the individual system control valves on the manifold.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Dewayne Martinez
>> 
>> Fire Protection Design Manager
>> 
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>> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Duross
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:36 PM
>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>> Subject: RE: FDC & Pump
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What Larry said..
>> 
>> And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe 
>> unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the 
>> base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser manifold, for 
>> example.
>> 
>> TD
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The requirement is from NFPA 13, not from NFPA 20. Here is the text from 
>> NFPA 13-2013:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 8.17.2.4.8  Fire department connections shall not be connected on the 
>> suction side of fire pumps.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Larry Keeping
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps.  Looking 
>> through 2013 NFPA 20, I don't see anything precluding the instillation on 
>> the supply side.  Is the FDC allowed to be installed on the supply?
>> 
>> I have a contractor that has installed the FDC on the supply run-in, instead 
>> of stubing up a secondary line from the remote FDC.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jamie
>> 
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