Hey Dennis, This is one of those times when you oughta take a deep breath before you hit the "send" button. We're not talking about levels of talent or a person's ability to play or not. Mostly the home folks are bragging on the local boy, others are acknowledging their talent but are not moved by the performance, others are talking about siblings who can tear it up, so on and so forth on this rambling topic. If jealousy or envy enters into this, then count me in too. I'm envious of their accomplishments at such an early age and all the opportunities that await them down the road, not in what they play because I play the style I want to play. I actually LIKE bluegrass and oldtime and pretty much have no tolerance for jazz. It's not that I couldn't play it if that was what I was into. It's that I don't want to play it, don't want to learn anything about it because it doesn't speak to me(unless Ella Fitzgerald is singing it). I've seen/heard a number of bluegrassers who, once they learn how to play at a certain level, decide they are jazz players. This has been covered before. I'd rather be a great bluegrasser than a crappy jazz player, or vice versa.
Hey, I'm one of those guys who pissed away a lot of time and energy when I was a kid out rambling around, partly not having direction, partly trying to overcome my Dad's condemnation for me not being "like everybody else"(apparently having a mandolin player in the house was an embarrassment), and partly out doing drugs and whatnot to forget it. There's more involved in your response to Brian's comment than meets the eye. You and I have had a conversation about this. I know you have very strong feelings regarding some of the points you brought up. Brian has plenty of talent. So do you. What have you been doing with yours lately? I don't get the weekly visit from you anymore. Oh, and please stop attaching all the spay and neuter messages to your messages here. We get it. Simmer down, Otis. Taterbug On Jan 5, 1:09 pm, Dennis Fehling <denpamc...@msn.com> wrote: > it's just jealous plain and simple........they do knwo how to pla and express > themselves in their own way, that's why music is a from of personal > expression. I'm sure Brian that you were influenced by someone and have some > residual effects from your5 exposure to them unless you are the person who > created music to begin with. Be happy that these kids are doing whatthey are > doing what they are doing and not being out in the streets doing drugs, > raping, or other wise getting into trouble. And stop bheing jealous of the > talent they have which you will never possess. > > Dennis. > > www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com > > When will the madness stop. Spay and Neuter your pets > > EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD > Join me > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:48:27 -0800 > From: email_t...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because > their music doesn't move you. I'm not particularly moved by this performance > either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I > can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and > sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before. > > From: Dasspunk <dassp...@gmail.com> > To: Taterbugmando <taterbugmando@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield > > Agreed. > > I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a > springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard > for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely > common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical > masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and > it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really > well, to actually knowing *how* to play. > > Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have > been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone > and practice musical masturbation regularly. > > I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle > discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change > because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for > circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I > would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really > learn how to play. > > Brian > > On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <mark.se...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > No doubt all great players. But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was > > playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was > > Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune! And on Old Daingerfield with Alex, > > again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part? Because > > you can agree to do it? It didn't add anything to what is a great tune. I > > enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got > > disjointed by creating that space. But, that's just me... :) > > > Mark > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ > > > > here is one such clip > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> > > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > > there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the > > > youtube... > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* "mandoho...@comcast.net" <mandoho...@comcast.net> > > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon. Jake is > > > a > > > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston. > > > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical terrorists, all > > > very good, but the language is not > > > familiar to me. I know, I'm old. Alex is a junior in high school from > > > Corvalis, Oregon. The poor kid doesn't even have a band > > > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a > > > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band' I just > > > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school. > > > > Clyde Clevenger > > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right > > > Salem, Oregon > > > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Terry Harvey" <terwaha...@gmail.com> > > > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield > > > > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The > > > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th. > > > That kid can bow a fiddle!! Who's the mando wunderkind? > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <bburne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Very impressive. > > > >> Bill in Nashville > > > >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <mandoho...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >>> This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it > > >>> was fun to see tonight. > > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg > > > >>> Clyde Clevenger > > >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right > > >>> Salem, Oregon > > >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > > >>> -- > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>> Groups > > >>> "Taterbugmando" group. > > >>> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > >>> legroups.com> > > >>> . > > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "Taterbugmando" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > >> legroups.com> > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > "Its never too late to be what we might have been" > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > > legroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > > legroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > > legroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > > legroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Taterbugmando" group. > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
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