Oh, what a great link! Thanks! You made my evening with that one.

Topher


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mark Seale <[email protected]> wrote:
> To get back to the lighter notes... speaking of Ella and a true all star
> band:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQ3KOZHKGo
>
> M
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:12 AM, mistertaterbug <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dennis,
>> This is one of those times when you oughta take a deep breath before
>> you hit the "send" button. We're not talking about levels of talent or
>> a person's ability to play or not. Mostly the home folks are bragging
>> on the local boy, others are acknowledging their talent but are not
>> moved by the performance, others are talking about siblings who can
>> tear it up, so on and so forth on this rambling topic. If jealousy or
>> envy enters into this, then count me in too. I'm envious of their
>> accomplishments at such an early age and all the opportunities that
>> await them down the road, not in what they play because I play the
>> style I want to play. I actually LIKE bluegrass and oldtime and pretty
>> much have no tolerance for jazz. It's not that I couldn't play it if
>> that was what I was into. It's that I don't want to play it, don't
>> want to learn anything about it because it doesn't speak to me(unless
>> Ella Fitzgerald is singing it). I've seen/heard a number of
>> bluegrassers who, once they learn how to play at a certain level,
>> decide they are jazz players. This has been covered before. I'd rather
>> be a great bluegrasser than a crappy jazz player, or vice versa.
>>
>> Hey, I'm one of those guys who pissed away a lot of time and energy
>> when I was a kid out rambling around, partly not having direction,
>> partly trying to overcome my Dad's condemnation for me not being "like
>> everybody else"(apparently having a mandolin player in the house was
>> an embarrassment), partly out drinking and drugging and whatnot to
>> forget it, and partly because I just liked being out rambling around
>> and
>> letting my mind run. So, fire off a few rounds in my direction too.
>> There's more involved in your response to Brian's comment than
>> meets the eye. You and I have had a conversation about this. I know
>> you have very strong feelings regarding some of the points you brought
>> up.
>>
>> Brian has plenty of talent. So do you. What have you been doing with
>> yours lately? I don't get the weekly visit from you anymore. Oh, and
>> please stop attaching all the spay and neuter messages to your
>> messages here. We get it.
>>
>> Simmer down, Otis.
>> Taterbug
>>
>> On Jan 5, 1:09 pm, Dennis Fehling <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > it's just jealous plain and simple........they do knwo how to pla and
>> > express themselves in their own way, that's why music is a from of personal
>> > expression.  I'm sure Brian that you were influenced by someone and have
>> > some residual effects from your5  exposure to them unless you are the 
>> > person
>> > who created music to begin with.  Be happy that these kids are doing
>> > whatthey are doing what they are doing and not being out in the streets
>> > doing drugs, raping, or other wise getting into trouble.  And stop bheing
>> > jealous of the talent they have which you will never possess.
>> >
>> > Dennis.
>> >
>> > www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com
>> >
>> > When will the madness stop.  Spay and Neuter your pets
>> >
>> >  EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD
>> > Join me
>> >
>> > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:48:27 -0800
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>> > To: [email protected]
>> >
>> > Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just
>> > because their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this
>> > performance either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way
>> > beyond what I can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten
>> > to somebody and sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.
>> >
>> > From: Dasspunk <[email protected]>
>> > To: Taterbugmando <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>> >
>> > Agreed.
>> >
>> > I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
>> > springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
>> > for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
>> > common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
>> > masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
>> > it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
>> > well, to actually knowing *how* to play.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
>> > been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
>> > and practice musical masturbation regularly.
>> >
>> > I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
>> > discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
>> > because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
>> > circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
>> > would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
>> > learn how to play.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while
>> > > Joliff was
>> > > playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
>> > > Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with
>> > > Alex,
>> > > again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?
>> > >  Because
>> > > you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great
>> > > tune.  I
>> > > enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it
>> > > just got
>> > > disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)
>> >
>> > > Mark
>> >
>> > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ
>> >
>> > > > here is one such clip
>> >
>> > > >  ------------------------------
>> > > > *From:* Trey Young <[email protected]>
>> > > > *To:* [email protected]
>> > > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
>> > > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>> >
>> > > >  there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann
>> > > > on the
>> > > > youtube...
>> >
>> > > >  ------------------------------
>> > > > *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> > > > *To:* [email protected]
>> > > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
>> > > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>> >
>> > > > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.
>> > > >  Jake is a
>> > > > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
>> > > > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical
>> > > > terrorists, all
>> > > > very good, but the language is not
>> > > > familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school
>> > > > from
>> > > > Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
>> > > > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished
>> > > > a
>> > > > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
>> > > > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.
>> >
>> > > >  Clyde Clevenger
>> > > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
>> > > > Salem, Oregon
>> > > > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
>> >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Terry Harvey" <[email protected]>
>> > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>> > > > Pacific
>> > > > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>> >
>> > > > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @
>> > > > The
>> > > > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
>> > > > That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?
>> >
>> > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> Very impressive.
>> >
>> > > >> Bill in Nashville
>> >
>> > > >>   On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >>>  This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but
>> > > >>> it
>> > > >>> was fun to see tonight.
>> >
>> > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg
>> >
>> > > >>>  Clyde Clevenger
>> > > >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right
>> > > >>> Salem, Oregon
>> > > >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
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