Dennis,

I am TOTALLY jealous of their athletic ability... I would love to have
the dexterity, natural ability, etc that these wunder kids have.
Again... I find their ability awesome... what they play, less so.

But... and I can't believe I'm saying this... we're not talking about
me :)

Brian



On Jan 5, 1:09 pm, Dennis Fehling <denpamc...@msn.com> wrote:
> it's just jealous plain and simple........they do knwo how to pla and express 
> themselves in their own way, that's why music is a from of personal 
> expression.  I'm sure Brian that you were influenced by someone and have some 
> residual effects from your5  exposure to them unless you are the person who 
> created music to begin with.  Be happy that these kids are doing whatthey are 
> doing what they are doing and not being out in the streets doing drugs, 
> raping, or other wise getting into trouble.  And stop bheing jealous of the 
> talent they have which you will never possess.
>
> Dennis.  
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> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:48:27 -0800
> From: email_t...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
> To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
>
> Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because 
> their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this performance 
> either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I 
> can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and 
> sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.
>
> From: Dasspunk <dassp...@gmail.com>
> To: Taterbugmando <taterbugmando@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> Agreed.
>
> I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
> springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
> for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
> common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
> masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
> it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
> well, to actually knowing *how* to play.
>
> Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
> been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
> and practice musical masturbation regularly.
>
> I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
> discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
> because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
> circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
> would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
> learn how to play.
>
> Brian
>
> On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <mark.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
> > playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
> > Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
> > again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
> > you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
> > enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
> > disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)
>
> > Mark
>
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ
>
> > > here is one such clip
>
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com>
> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> > >  there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
> > > youtube...
>
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* "mandoho...@comcast.net" <mandoho...@comcast.net>
> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> > > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is 
> > > a
> > > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
> > > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
> > > very good, but the language is not
> > > familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from
> > > Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
> > > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a
> > > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
> > > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.
>
> > >  Clyde Clevenger
> > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > > Salem, Oregon
> > > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terry Harvey" <terwaha...@gmail.com>
> > > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> > > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The
> > > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
> > > That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?
>
> > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <bburne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Very impressive.
>
> > >> Bill in Nashville
>
> > >>   On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <mandoho...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >>>  This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it
> > >>> was fun to see tonight.
>
> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg
>
> > >>>  Clyde Clevenger
> > >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > >>> Salem, Oregon
> > >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
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