it's just jealous plain and simple........they do knwo how to pla and express 
themselves in their own way, that's why music is a from of personal expression. 
 I'm sure Brian that you were influenced by someone and have some residual 
effects from your5  exposure to them unless you are the person who created 
music to begin with.  Be happy that these kids are doing whatthey are doing 
what they are doing and not being out in the streets doing drugs, raping, or 
other wise getting into trouble.  And stop bheing jealous of the talent they 
have which you will never possess.

 

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:48:27 -0800
From: email_t...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com





Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because 
their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this performance 
either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I 
can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and 
sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.





From: Dasspunk <dassp...@gmail.com>
To: Taterbugmando <taterbugmando@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

Agreed.

I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
well, to actually knowing *how* to play.

Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
and practice musical masturbation regularly.

I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
learn how to play.

Brian




On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <mark.se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
> playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
> Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
> again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
> you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
> enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
> disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ
>
> > here is one such clip
>
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com>
> > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> >  there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
> > youtube...
>
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* "mandoho...@comcast.net" <mandoho...@comcast.net>
> > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is a
> > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
> > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
> > very good, but the language is not
> > familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from
> > Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
> > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a
> > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
> > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.
>
> >  Clyde Clevenger
> > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > Salem, Oregon
> > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry Harvey" <terwaha...@gmail.com>
> > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield
>
> > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The
> > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
> > That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?
>
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <bburne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Very impressive.
>
> >> Bill in Nashville
>
> >>   On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <mandoho...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>  This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it
> >>> was fun to see tonight.
>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg
>
> >>>  Clyde Clevenger
> >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> >>> Salem, Oregon
> >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle>
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