On Sunday, November 12, 2000, 4:10:10 AM, A. wrote:

ML>> If TB provides a "bozo bin" as Gravity or XNews do, or at allow
ML>> AB entries or filter items to expire after certain days as
ML>> Agent does, filtering spammers directly would be much easier
ML>> and more practical.

> The bozo bin principle will work with newsreading because 'bozos'
> are posters, whose messages you wish not to read. They aren't
> spammers so they use a fixed address ..... although mind you there
> are some professional bozos who tend to change their addresses.

I want a bozo bin exactly because spammers (email or newsgrouop ones
alike) change their addresses often, for a well-implemented bozo bin
lets you decide when a blocked/killed address should expire. With
TB's address book, we can use the group feature to create a bozo bin
for ourselves, but address added to it won't expire. This isn't very
useful and would eventually slow down the system since it's checking
against a long list of spammer addresses that's no longer in use.

ML>> With Word (or other word processors), MAPI, and mail-merge,
ML>> sophisticated spammers have begun to use personalized spam.
ML>> Since you're the only recipient of a particular message, they
ML>> don't shy from putting your name in the To field. That's why I
ML>> miss the bozo bin so much.

> Don't these spammers change their addresses and sources for each spam
> message that they send?

They do, but they may not be changing that often. That's why an
expiration period is important.

> It's really not that bad when I use Neotrace and TB!'s templates.
> I created a complaint template. I then look in the Kludges and run
> a trace on the DNS address from which the message originated. 50%
> of the times I'll find the ISP. I then copy the ISP info from
> Neotrace, include it in the spam complaint and send the message to
> them. This all takes about 10-15secs per message. I do other
> things while Neotrace does its thing so I don't count the
> traceroute time.

All I have to do is just forward the spam message to our Anti-Spam
Team, and they'll do the tracing and filing complaints. If
complaints don't work, they can block it. Nice, isn't it? :)

-- 
Best regards,
Ming-Li

The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1

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