Hi Joe,

Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 12:13:42 PM, you wrote:

J> Any prediction as to what they'll say?

  As a former technical support Product Specialist for BellSouth's
  FastAccess service, I can guess what they'll say, unless things have
  changed since I retired.

  The front line tech support agent you speak with at first will
  probably be in the Philippines, and they aren't trained to handle this
  issue. You'll have to go through their standard troubleshooting
  checklist to rule out all the other reasons why your mail isn't
  getting through. Be patient, cooperative, and persistent. This will
  likely take you more than one call.

  One thing I can almost guarantee you'll hear someone say, somewhere
  along the line is, "We don't support The Bat!, but I'll be glad to see
  if I can help you get your mail to work in Outlook Express." So make
  sure you can't send mail that way first.

  Have you tried using another MUA, like Outlook Express, and if so do
  you get the same results? Or can you send mail out through their
  Webmail interface (http://webmail.bellsouth.net)? Definitely do your
  homework in exploring these alternatives before calling and save
  yourself some grief. I'm afraid you won't get much help from them with
  getting The Bat! to work though.

  Leif's advice in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is sound. Go
  through this thread and condense out the essence, make sure you
  understand it so that you can explain it, and have it laid out in
  front of you so you can keep your story straight.

  You will probably need to escalate your call to a Product Specialist
  There are two levels of those -- tier two and tier three. Tier three
  is higher than tier two. At each level, there are resolution
  checklists, so you'll have to allow them to try those things. The key
  phrase (read: magic words) to precipitate an escalation is "May I
  speak to your supervisor," but don't start with that because that will
  only prolong things. If you want to be polite, you might add "Please,"
  but despite what your parents may have told you, that's not
  necessarily one of *BellSouth's* magic words. Also just FYI, the rule
  used to be that if three calls were received in a week about the same
  issue, the call was automatically escalated.

  Ultimately you *may* need to get this issue to the NOC (Network
  Operations Center), but generally that group is the last to become
  involved, because most things aren't network issues but rather they
  result from the individual's system being misconfigured. So it is
  regrettable, but the customer has to "endure" the help of those lower
  down the chain of problem resolution before the NOC will even take a
  look at the issue. Sending an issue to the NOC requires a lot of work
  by the PS who sends it (again to rule out the obvious), so they resort
  to that reluctantly.

  I'm writing, not to discourage you, but rather to prepare you that
  this may take you a while and to offer you some insight into the
  stages of resolution you may have to go through. Also you seemed to
  want to know, before you call, what they are going to say. The answer
  is, neither I nor anyone else knows with any certainty what they'll
  say, but it is an empirical question. Call and within less time than
  it took me to compose this message, you'll find out what they will
  say.

  The first words out of my mouth to them would be "have any other
  customers reported their mail being rejected because the SMTP servers
  at BellSouth were blacklisted for spamming?" Follow that with Miguel's
  (MAU) advice and explanation in
  mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  A number of knowledgeable people have replied to you in this thread. I
  suspect their diagnosis of the issue is accurate, but it is going to
  take more work than it *should* for you to convince BellSouth of that,
  I'm afraid.

-- 
Regards,
 Perry   

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