Bianca, Thought I would try and respond to your questions/comments below. We have gotten some complaints about heavy handed tactics by a few of the operators at PCI and also gotten some nice comments about how professional and courteous some of the operators were. We’ve let our PCI contact know about the bad apples and they take corrective actions.
1. The directory that is being prepared is more than just a members manual. It allows you to add a lot of additional information, for example, your grotto affiliation, educational information, awards, spouse names, cell phone, occupation, picture, etc. The directory includes all past and current members where the annual NSS members manual doesn’t include past members. Occupational information is of value to the NSS because it allows us to find volunteers with specific expertise. For example, we are going to convert our five classrooms in the Headquarters to educational facilities. We found a member that has a background in commercial office design and they’ve been working on layout of the education center. We have other needs for various volunteer skills in the NSS. 2. PCI has reported about 20 percent of the contacts had new updated basic contact information. This would be emails, phones, addresses, etc. So, some folks don’t always update their information with the NSS office. 3. You can include or exclude as much or as little information as you want in the directory. 4. You will be able to go on line and update your information and addition material before publication date. 5. So far, contacts by PCI has resulted in more than 160 renewals by past members (not bad). 6. If you get a high pressure sales pitch, let us know at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (Curt Harler, who is the project contact for the NSS) or [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (Geary Schindel, that’s me). 7. PCI is the only people that will be contacting you. The members list is a private list and when they are done, they will return the updated list to the NSS. They may not use it, transfer it, or sell it. 8. If you ignore the postcards, you may get a phone call asking if you want to participate. You may say yes or no and determine what level you want to participate. Hope this helps answer some questions. Geary Schindel President NSS From: 'Bianca della Vittoria' via Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:39 PM To: Lee H. Skinner <[email protected]>; Texas Cavers <[email protected]>; New Mexico Cavers <[email protected]>; Sandia Grotto <sandia-grotto-of-the-national-speleological-soci...@googlegroups.com>; Allen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam? I received the first two postcards which I purposely ignored after hearing all the hassle and sales pressure people were getting after calling the number on the card. Then a second batch came which I just put into the shredder. I don't really know why you would need to verify info if you don't want to. When you pay your membership each year you can change your address or if it is the same you don't. I imagine if you moved in between you can contact the NSS directly and ask for a change, so verification seems unnecessary. The address you put on your membership should be what any correspondence is sent to unless you specifically request a change of address and same with your email for online publications. If that changes it is your responsibility to notify of a new address. If the address has not changed but you quit getting emails or online publications that are expected you should query why, but I certainly don't want telemarketers calling or pressure to buy something. So I will keep ignoring those yellow postcards. On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 2:22:15 PM MDT, Allen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hey all, Just received a postcard from some publishing company about the NSS members manual. Anyone else receive one? Its a yellow postcard with the NSS logo on it. It has a title of "Verification of caver data" in all caps, and a Po Box in Dallas Tx. I called the number on the card and the phone operator started asking some odd questions about place of employment, phone numbers, email, marital status, name of spouse, name of kids, grotto affiliation. Then at the end they want you to send them a color picture of yourself, a bill would then be sent out for two payments of $50 for the hard bound book. Or because I am a member, would bundle a sweatshirt, and book bag, and a digital copy, for two payments of $75... I didn't provide much info, but started questioning it by the end. Anyone know anything about this? Is it a scam? Is the NSS publishing the members manual in hardback? Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. 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