we could have some kind of namespace switching, eg for widgets, we have
when defining widgets
exports.['mywidget']exports.set = SetWidget;
which sets up the name 'mywidget' . If we have the convention to additional
provide another qualified name like this
exports['bj.mywidget'] exports.set = SetWidget;
so another clashing definition of 'mywidget' could be
exports['anon.mywidget'] exports.set = SetWidget;
then we could have a pragma to 'tell' the parser (the html rule in this
case) to override the 'mywidget' with a choosen prefix.
Obviously prefixes should be publish somewhere.
On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 12:17:44 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> > However, I have yet to see a plugin follow this guideline. Is this still
> I think I wrote that right back in the beginning of TiddlyWiki5, when it
> was under development in 2011/12. Trying to learn from the experience of TW
> Classic, I was consciously trying to implement features that would help the
> community coalesce.
> As it's turned out, I don't think using the author prefix in the
> widget/macro name is a good approach, because of the inevitable wordiness
> it brings.
> Tobias' idea of a central registry is not bad; if you're interested in
> setting it up, then I suggest that structuring the registry as tiddlers in
> the tw5.com wiki, but open to suggestions.
> Best wishes
> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9:24:18 AM UTC+1, Julian Kniephoff wrote:
>> Hi Tobias
>> that's good to hear in the sense that I now don't have to feel bad for
>> ignoring that guideline myself.
>> The GitHub-Repository idea sounds very interesting, even independently of
>> namespacing issues. But in the long run, some kind of namespace system
>> could be very useful. After all, I might really really want to pick a
>> certain name for my widget, for example, even if I find out that it is
>> already taken. ;)
>> Just a stray idea: Since TiddlyWiki borrows XML syntax (for widgets)
>> already, anyway, something similar to the XML namespace system could maybe
>> I imagine a plugin author would specify a namespace URI (maybe the
>> sourceURL that is already in the plugin.info file?) and then to use the
>> stuff from the frobnicate plugin, you would specify a namespace
>> attribute like
>> <$frobnicate twns="http://juliankniephoff.com/frobnicate">
>> Every named entity referred to in here is looked up in my plugin first
>> Or, if you want to explicitly disambiguate things or be more explicit in
>> general, you could give it a prefix:
>> <$jk:frobnicate twns:jk="http://juliankniephoff.com/frobnicate">
>> Every named entity referred to in here with a "jk:" prefix is looked up
>> in my plugin first
>> As said, just an idea. Such a system would probably require much work
>> very deep within the core of TiddlyWiki. :/
>> Best wishes,
>> P.S.: Sorry for the empty post earlier, I accidentally hit the wrong
>> button ...
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 6:25:51 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>> Hi Julian,
>>> It's the first time I hear of this convention and I'm almost certain no
>>> one has been adhering to it.
>>> At least I haven't been, since I wasn't even aware it existed.
>>> It would definitely avoid collisions, especially among plugin authors.
>>> If you look at my plugins, you'll find that many have a good chance for
>>> future incompatibilities owed to their generic names...
>>> Eventually, rather than the above convention, I think we should have
>>> some public listing where authors can register some basic info about their
>>> plugins, especially things that may clash, like:
>>> - parsers
>>> - widgets
>>> - filters
>>> - fields
>>> - css classes
>>> I find that to be a more sensible approach which would also make plugins
>>> a little more discoverable. Then a dev could verify if their desired name
>>> was already used by something else.
>>> This could be a simple github repo where authors are free to make a PR
>>> for their plugin listing.
>>> Best wishes,
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