@ralead

> 2. Look on this forum and on OpenERP website. Obviously the current focus of 
> Tiny company is not to have a complete product but to sale "partnerships" 


Well, don't get it wrong they put their resource on the product, not on the 
sales like others, that's why they are so right.

If you look at such commit logs, you'll see that M. Pinckaers, both the creator 
of the product and CEO commited at something like 2 A.M.:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openerp/openobject-addons/trunk/revision/1845

If they were putting resources on the sales instead, a salesman would just have 
call you to propose you some costly deal so he could make money himself out of 
that deal. So may be they are really bad at marketing, selling and all, but for 
sure they are putting resources on the features.




> It lacks essential features (cost estimation, cost control, scheduling, etc


I think cost estimation is there, cost control might be quite doable too. Now 
scheduling must be achieved manually or externally coded. No open source ERP 
can afford building an "MRP2" system like you'll encounter in SAP R/3, that's 
out of their scope and commercial target. I've no problem with that, you should 
just know it, that's the first thing we check with our customers actually. Most 
are OK with it.


@sraps

> prohibitive costs

Well, for sure only a few cases will drive to cost savings compared to existing 
packaged commercial ERP's. It doesn't mean the there isn't a huge, very huge 
market room. And also, my analysis is that all other generic open source ERP's 
I could tried (and I spent a lot of time trying) will drive to MUCH higher 
costs (IMHO the nearest oss ERP's would just double the total cost of ownership 
at least, sometimes much more).



> in most countries it is possible to buy 2-5 people hours for 1 people hour 
> cost of Tiny's support

Agree a bit, but they must also drive some revenues and some of the Tiny.be 
employees are living in western countries. Now they are doing quite well, they 
are relatively cheap compared to Compiere/Openbravo, not to speak about 
proprietary ERP's. That's actually why Compiere got forked by so many Adempiere 
and possibly Openbravo guys later on (until those last ones got crazy too).

And even if it's expensive, it's still a huge advantage to integrate open 
source ERP's in developing countries because:
* usually big proprietary ERP's dont fit out of the box (the market wes to 
small to attract them)
* the license cost of a proprietary ERP is almost the same as in western 
countries (because they should pay their engineering+sale staff, the poorer the 
product, the more costly it gets to market/maintain; and also because they 
don't want western companies to base their IT in developing countries). So 
given that open source usually requires more integration man work to work 
around the bugs+verticalization, it's a huge competitive advantage to be an ERP 
integrator in developing countries overall I think.

But yeah, you are a bit right, they should have a support free and cheaper 
partnership option for emerging countries. But that's not that easy as they 
should also ensure official partners are trained enough not to ruin their 
reputation (ERP is hard as you may know).

My 0.02$

Raphaël Valyi
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