Hi,

> Seems that our discussion went a little bit astray. Let me make some short 
> remarks. 

yes this is a bit crazy, and what is a bit interesting that again all the same 
people like in other similar posts... :) It looks like some group of interest.

So I would like to comment on some things.


> Now, compare apples to apples...


I thing that ralead is talking about apples, but rvalyi and other about methods 
of growing of apples, and this is big difference. You absolutely must compare 
proprietary soft to open source, otherwise OSS will look more like geek's dream 
(there is some word to say about OpenERP too) not the real world tool. And you 
absolutely should not look at the worse cases - it isn't just right.

OpenERP looks like is being developed without the real course in mind, at least 
there is no published or explained. As I posted on other threads, interesting 
is that, main scope is on features shininess and brightness. I have my hands in 
OpenERP by the elbows, for some four months now, and the worst things is when 
you stumble upon old bugs and lack of basic core functionality that no one 
cares for.


> Putting time in developing a great idea is fine. When you try to sell it, not 
> paying attention to your customers is wrong. 


I agree completely with you.

Daniel, the soft is great, the idea is, still not the way it is promoted. But 
at least there is a way to take part, if not by contributing, still by using 
the soft, like choose you level of involvement. Which is not the case with 
proprietary soft. Personally I think that OpenERP now is a bit geeky (well as 
lot of OSS's are).

The main problem about the OPenERP is that I can not imagine how OpenERP could 
be used without skilled developer stuff, whether inhouse or outsorced, it does 
not matter. But as I now if the case is not trivial no ERP could be implemented 
right out of the box. For example we rather small IT company are subject to all 
of methods of analytic financial accounting as described in the recent OpenERP 
book.

But still it is nonsense if OSS costs you more (???) than ERP bigshots, it is 
crazy and it should not be that way.

>>gegard

> What a strange idea of the world you have. No company has a duty to do any 
> such thing, unless you have a contract with them for that. 


BTW, the GPL2 is a clear example for contract between community, users and each 
developer in general. Moreover there is moral responsibility for everything you 
create. If you state one, but do about 30% other, it is not the right way to go.

>>rvalyi

> If you can substantially improve OpenERP in scheduling with 200 lines of 
> codes, then YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO IT.


There is gazilion of things that could be improved or corrected under 20 SLOC 
:) on OpenERP. Just think of Python is peogramming language of very high level, 
so 1 SLOC is worth 5 in other languages.
Anyway Python is oh so raw, immature, incomplete, geeky, and so rapidly 
fluctuating (functions wonder between libraries to and forth just like that), 
that I would never choose the one for a new project. Still it is surprising 
that the OpenERP is pretty stable. BTW it would be interesting to hear why 
Fabien chose one?

sraps




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