************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ There're different degrees of out of body . There's out of universe too . Out of every thing .
Seems like the further back on the track ( deeper in the onion ) the less conflicting goals there are . Once one gets to the center of the onion in present time ? Thats it . From there one can go forward on the track while in pt and time break the future which is really the past so to speak, and resolve all conflicting goals gaining power of postulate and ability as you go forward from the inside out . Going from present time backwards is good and that's really the only way you can get to the beginning with TROM. You will eventually get to the point of when you had no case in present time but get your case back, as there are still conflicting goals, as you move back to the outer onion. Then its just a matter of going back to the center of the onion each session and with a few more sessions, resolve your whole case with full , native state ability permanently L ,,,;emmemvh. restored for a while as nothing is permanent with, total freedom of choice. When you get to the center of the onion where you have no case, you'll also have full ability as long as you are there and should use it to resolve ( time break ) conflicting goals from the center outwards. You'll be in present time at the center of the onion and the outer edge of the onion. Most of the ability loss in terms of conflicting goals, seems to be at the outer part of the onion. On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Carlos Dos Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi Xriz, > > Once you've done level 1,2,3 and 4 correctly and get to level 5, you will be > able to make exteriorisation a stable ability. > > At level 5 you will AS-IS every postulate and counter-postulate with regards > to exteriorisation. > > Just be persistent and have fun while tromming, > > Carlos > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 00:47:30 +0200 > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] observations on Exteriorization > > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > ************ > > I experience it with the same problems as you do. > > I guess it has something to do with the actual creation of space. Not so > > much the awareness of existing MEST space, but the current creation of own > > space. > > I also welcome any suggestions how to help exteriorisation become a stable > > ability. > > > > xriz > > > > Am 04.08.2010, 00:21 Uhr, schrieb Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]>: > > > > > After reading Dennis’s experiences on being exteriorized by LRH auditing > > > several years ago I began trying to go exterior myself. > > > I found that I am holding so tight to my body that I am not willing > > > while awake to move my point of view outside my body. > > > My early ideas on exteriorizing were that it must mean that when I am > > > obsessing over some upset in my life and tossing back and forth what had > > > happened and what I should have done I was interiorized as in looking > > > in. When I walk in the park and smell the roses I am exteriorized as I > > > am looking out. I now think this is incorrect. > > > When I first started running level 4 I hit on a classic Dianetic engram > > > from my childhood that contained my getting hit in the head which hurt > > > like hell while a neighbor girl said “Leave me Alone”. > > > As I time broke this incident I felt terrific enthusiasm and went > > > exterior in that incident and in my whole childhood. I can still go to > > > the homes and streets I lived and played in at that time and see them > > > vividly as recalls. The area had been blocked by the engram so this was > > > an ability regained. > > > While this win was nice it did not give me the ability to go exterior > > > now. For instance, if I want to look at the back door of my home I can > > > call up a picture of it that feels like a picture of the last time I > > > looked at the door but not look at it in the here and now. > > > A few days ago I was waking up in the morning while having a vivid dream > > > in full Technicolor. I watched this scenery fade from vivid while I was > > > asleep and not noticing my body to a recall while I began to notice my > > > body. > > > Apparently I have a compulsion to use my bodies eyes to see. The > > > compulsion is so strong that recalls or direct thetan viewing of the > > > world fades out when I realize I have a body and I try to do all my > > > seeing with the bodies eyes. > > > Have any of you noticed this mechanism? > > > Keep on TROMing > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > -- > > Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
