Gary wrote:
> DavidM uses the concept, below, to teach that water 
> actually saves him. He does not teach that consistently 
> turning to Christ through the Holy Spirit is crucial 
> to salvation.

On the contrary, Gary.  I teach that turning to Christ through the Holy
Spirit is crucial to salvation.  Furthermore, I do not teach that water
saves anyone.  Baptism saves, not water.  Martin Luther articulates it
well in the following quote:

"How can water do such great things? It is not the water 
indeed that does them, but the Word of God which is in 
and with the water (God's giving hand), and faith which 
trusts such word of God in the water (man's receiving 
hand)."

The Lutherans add: "But this faith, which is required 
for a salutary use of the gospel and baptism, is wrought 
by these as instruments which the Holy Spirit employs
to produce faith; not by imparting to them a magical 
power but by uniting His Divine power with them 
(Romans 10:17; 2 Corinthians 4:6; Ephesians 5:26)."

David Miller wrote:
>> ... even (a)BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVE US 
>> ((b)not the putting away of the filth of 
>> the flesh,

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. 

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