[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:38:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who is the Jesus that Lance, Baxter and I follow?  He is the eternal Son of
God who before the foundation of the world adopted us to be part of the
relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit.  Against the lie of
separation that Satan administered in the Fall, Jesus clothed Himself with
our humanity, cleansed it from within, was killed and rose from the dead to
His Father with us carefully held in His hands.  He now sits at the right
hand of His Father continually interceding for us.  We in turn participate
in what He did for us.

In another email you asked me what is an overcomer.  The only overcomer is
Jesus Christ.  In all that He overcomes, we overcome.  I never overcome
anything that He does not overcome first.  An overcomer is one who trusts in
the work and person of Jesus Christ.


Hmmmmmmmmmm.   Sounds like the very same Jesus Judy and the rest of us worship. 
If Jonathan  has poor thelogical ideas -- he is no different from the rest of us. Judy is no closer to the Truth than anyone else.   And why does doctrinal positioning have anything to do with our Family Ties?   If doctrinal issues are important, yea,  critical,  which ones are they?   Just give me a list of those things I cannot be mistaken in and I will be a happy though ignorant camper.    Ignorant, I say because there will be no point in my examination of those crtical issues for fear that I might make a poor decision about any of those issues and find myself standing knee deep in the Pond of Hell.  The notion that God throught he spirit gives me an accurate undersanding of the biblical message, verse by vers, is simply not true.   

Will I get a list?   No.   How do I know?   because I have asked this question of those who tend to a legalistic position perhaps 100 times over the years without an answer.   It is my fish or cut bait question  (have several in storage.)  
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List follows, absolutely demanded, no wiggle room.  You must believe in:
1. Creation, not evolution
2. Virgin birth
3. Jesus, the Christ, is Lord as well as Savior
4. Resurrection.
5.Heaven and Hell
end of list
Terry

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