You are correct in stating that the "Watchmaker and The Clock" is deistic. So is the concept of the "Prime Mover." These arguments promote deism if not carried further. People like Thomas Aquinas used arguments like these in order to open a dialogue about the existence of God. Once proven, Thomas intends that the Gospel would follow immediately.
What do you think of "Pascal's Wager?" -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Tuesday, 28 September, 2004 21.38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Eye of the Storm I am very glad that G asked you to clarify what I had sent. You are not on track at all. The watchmaker and clock concept is pure deism. That of a Creator who creates and then steps back out of reach of His creation. His creation then runs self-sufficiently apart from the Creator. There is no continuing relation between the watchmaker and the clock. What you missed in my definition of divine and contingent order is that creation is 'upheld by its Creator' and that it 'relies upon Jesus Christ in Whom all things move and have their being.' It is a world that has all the ability to exist without direct intervention by God but is also in a relationship with its Creator Who sustains it. In this relationship God can at any time intervene. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
