ftr, it really looks like JDs assessment is on target and DavidM is in denial
 
 
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:52:40 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JD:
> You have taken  mankind's failure out of the equation.. [while] Paul declares that we die because we
>have all have done the very same thing --  we have sinned.
 
DavidM:
<<..Paul's argument is that both death and sin have been passed onto us by Adam. >>

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