So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not just racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. They don’t even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. They may speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do not work for real news organizations of any kind.
If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, not into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US newspapers, but entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are > basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, but > I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of > permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. > > I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not > recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the UK. > I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be published > in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: > > https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ > > > > Adam > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what they are >> asking for - they want them to more than triple their current membership, >> which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher professional >> standards, would basically marginalize the current membership. >> >> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having to >> take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, without >> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until the >> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and practices >> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no longer >> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >> >> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, and >>> there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership to >>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, which they >>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive privilege. >>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>> >>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>> >>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, >>>> announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for reform by >>>> the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more changes >>>> were made. >>>> >>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global PR >>>> firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, including >>>> press conferences.” >>>> >>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate and >>>> take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly visible. >>>> But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>> >>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any viable >>>> form, they are going to have to be based on significant change to the >>>> organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>> >>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and schmooze >>>> their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be seen what value the >>>> GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course somewhat embattled for >>>> somewhat different reasons). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>> >>> >>>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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