I worked the show once as an NBC Page and again when I worked for Dick. It was, without a doubt, the worst show I’d ever worked. Foul tempered people, raging egos, space not designed for TV production, horribly managed, and it was a show I couldn’t stand. The first year I worked in it, having a fun positive interaction with Jamie Lee Curtis (this was around the time of True Lirs) was the only highlight. The second year, it was the sky blue dress worn by the cohost of Access Hollywood (whose name escapes me… no, not Pat O’Brien). I drank brazenly and was drunker than drunk long before the show wrapped.
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:31 PM Paul Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > How the Golden Globes Went From Laughingstock to Power Player > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/business/media/golden-globes-tom-cruise-nbc.html > > TL;DR: In 1996, NBC (Don Ohlmeyer) wanted an awards show to broadcast, and > DCP made it very entertaining. Everyone who should have known better had a > vested interest in playing ball. > > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:51:18 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: > >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And I think we can expect more of this... >>> >>> >>> >> Call me when he rejects Scientology >> >> >>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 1:06 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 1:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And now NBC weighs in - almost inevitably, they will not televise GG >>>>> this year, >>>>> I clear if they have to pay the $60M rights fee. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/golden-globes-canceled-nbc-2022-hfpa-1234753314/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> And Warner Bros and HBO are backing away from HFPA as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-10/warner-bros-and-hbo-cut-ties-with-hfpa-as-crisis-deepens-for-golden-globes-group >>>> >>>> Our long national nightmare might finally be over >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not >>>>>>> just racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> don’t even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. >>>>>>> They may speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> work for real news organizations of any kind. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, >>>>>>> not into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US >>>>>>> newspapers, >>>>>>> but entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are >>>>>>>> basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and >>>>>>>> there, but >>>>>>>> I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of >>>>>>>> permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not >>>>>>>> recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in >>>>>>>> the UK. >>>>>>>> I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be >>>>>>>> published >>>>>>>> in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what >>>>>>>>> they are asking for - they want them to more than triple their current >>>>>>>>> membership, which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher >>>>>>>>> professional standards, would basically marginalize the current >>>>>>>>> membership. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having >>>>>>>>> to take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and >>>>>>>>> practices >>>>>>>>> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no >>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, >>>>>>>>>> and there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their >>>>>>>>>> membership to >>>>>>>>>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, >>>>>>>>>> which they >>>>>>>>>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive >>>>>>>>>> privilege. >>>>>>>>>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>>>>>>>>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden >>>>>>>>>>> Globes, announced it was not satisfied with recently announced >>>>>>>>>>> plans for >>>>>>>>>>> reform by the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore >>>>>>>>>>> until more >>>>>>>>>>> changes were made. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global >>>>>>>>>>> PR firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, >>>>>>>>>>> including press conferences.” >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate >>>>>>>>>>> and take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly >>>>>>>>>>> visible. But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>>>>>>>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any >>>>>>>>>>> viable form, they are going to have to be based on significant >>>>>>>>>>> change to >>>>>>>>>>> the organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and >>>>>>>>>>> schmooze their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be >>>>>>>>>>> seen what >>>>>>>>>>> value the GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course >>>>>>>>>>> somewhat >>>>>>>>>>> embattled for somewhat different reasons). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Kevin M. 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