On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 8:26 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote:
> Nancy O'Dell? > That’s the one. That was a flattering dress. As I married man, I dare not say more. > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 7:27:26 PM PDT, Kevin M. < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I worked the show once as an NBC Page and again when I worked for Dick. It > was, without a doubt, the worst show I’d ever worked. Foul tempered people, > raging egos, space not designed for TV production, horribly managed, and it > was a show I couldn’t stand. The first year I worked in it, having a fun > positive interaction with Jamie Lee Curtis (this was around the time of > True Lirs) was the only highlight. The second year, it was the sky blue > dress worn by the cohost of Access Hollywood (whose name escapes me… no, > not Pat O’Brien). I drank brazenly and was drunker than drunk long before > the show wrapped. > > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:31 PM Paul Murray <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > How the Golden Globes Went From Laughingstock to Power Player > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/business/media/golden-globes-tom-cruise-nbc.html > > TL;DR: In 1996, NBC (Don Ohlmeyer) wanted an awards show to broadcast, and > DCP made it very entertaining. Everyone who should have known better had a > vested interest in playing ball. > > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:51:18 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > And I think we can expect more of this... > > > > Call me when he rejects Scientology > > > On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 1:06 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 1:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > And now NBC weighs in - almost inevitably, they will not televise GG this > year, > I clear if they have to pay the $60M rights fee. > > > > https://deadline.com/2021/05/golden-globes-canceled-nbc-2022-hfpa-1234753314/ > > > And Warner Bros and HBO are backing away from HFPA as well. > > > https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-10/warner-bros-and-hbo-cut-ties-with-hfpa-as-crisis-deepens-for-golden-globes-group > > Our long national nightmare might finally be over > > > > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA > > > https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott > > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not just > racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. They don’t > even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. They may > speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do not work for > real news organizations of any kind. > > If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, not > into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US newspapers, but > entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. > > > On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are > basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, but > I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of > permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. > > I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not > recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the UK. > I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be published > in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: > > https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ > > > > Adam > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what they are > asking for - they want them to more than triple their current membership, > which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher professional > standards, would basically marginalize the current membership. > > I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having to take > all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, without having to > pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until the current > membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and practices are > changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no longer > necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. > > > On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, and > there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership to > include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, which they > would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive privilege. > The current members — all of them — are the problem. > > What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m thinking > that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, > announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for reform by > the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more changes > were made. > > This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global PR firms > would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, including press > conferences.” > > No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate and take > photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly visible. But > Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, corruption-friendly > policies that govern HFPA activities. > > It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any viable form, > they are going to have to be based on significant change to the > organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. > > Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and schmooze their > way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be seen what value the GG > add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course somewhat embattled for > somewhat different reasons). > > > > https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2106403352.1779921.1620790008754%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2106403352.1779921.1620790008754%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. 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