And now NBC weighs in - almost inevitably, they will not televise GG this year, I clear if they have to pay the $60M rights fee.
https://deadline.com/2021/05/golden-globes-canceled-nbc-2022-hfpa-1234753314/ On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA > > > https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott > > > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not just >> racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. They don’t >> even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. They may >> speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do not work for >> real news organizations of any kind. >> >> If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, not >> into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US newspapers, but >> entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. >> >> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are >>> basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, but >>> I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of >>> permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. >>> >>> I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not >>> recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the UK. >>> I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be published >>> in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: >>> >>> https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what they >>>> are asking for - they want them to more than triple their current >>>> membership, which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher >>>> professional standards, would basically marginalize the current membership. >>>> >>>> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having to >>>> take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, without >>>> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until the >>>> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and practices >>>> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no longer >>>> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, and >>>>> there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership to >>>>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, which >>>>> they >>>>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive privilege. >>>>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>>>> >>>>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>>>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, >>>>>> announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for reform >>>>>> by >>>>>> the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more changes >>>>>> were made. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global PR >>>>>> firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, >>>>>> including >>>>>> press conferences.” >>>>>> >>>>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate and >>>>>> take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly visible. >>>>>> But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>>>> >>>>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any viable >>>>>> form, they are going to have to be based on significant change to the >>>>>> organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and schmooze >>>>>> their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be seen what value >>>>>> the >>>>>> GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course somewhat embattled >>>>>> for >>>>>> somewhat different reasons). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Kevin M. 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