How the Golden Globes Went From Laughingstock to Power Player https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/business/media/golden-globes-tom-cruise-nbc.html
TL;DR: In 1996, NBC (Don Ohlmeyer) wanted an awards show to broadcast, and DCP made it very entertaining. Everyone who should have known better had a vested interest in playing ball. On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:51:18 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And I think we can expect more of this... >> >> >> > Call me when he rejects Scientology > > >> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 1:06 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 1:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And now NBC weighs in - almost inevitably, they will not televise GG >>>> this year, >>>> I clear if they have to pay the $60M rights fee. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/golden-globes-canceled-nbc-2022-hfpa-1234753314/ >>>> >>> >>> And Warner Bros and HBO are backing away from HFPA as well. >>> >>> >>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-10/warner-bros-and-hbo-cut-ties-with-hfpa-as-crisis-deepens-for-golden-globes-group >>> >>> Our long national nightmare might finally be over >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not >>>>>> just racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. >>>>>> They >>>>>> don’t even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. >>>>>> They may speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do >>>>>> not >>>>>> work for real news organizations of any kind. >>>>>> >>>>>> If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, >>>>>> not into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US >>>>>> newspapers, >>>>>> but entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are >>>>>>> basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of >>>>>>> permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not >>>>>>> recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the >>>>>>> UK. >>>>>>> I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be >>>>>>> published >>>>>>> in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what >>>>>>>> they are asking for - they want them to more than triple their current >>>>>>>> membership, which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher >>>>>>>> professional standards, would basically marginalize the current >>>>>>>> membership. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having >>>>>>>> to take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and >>>>>>>> practices >>>>>>>> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no >>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, >>>>>>>>> and there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, >>>>>>>>> which they >>>>>>>>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive >>>>>>>>> privilege. >>>>>>>>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>>>>>>>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, >>>>>>>>>> announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for >>>>>>>>>> reform by >>>>>>>>>> the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more >>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>> were made. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global >>>>>>>>>> PR firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, >>>>>>>>>> including press conferences.” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate >>>>>>>>>> and take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly >>>>>>>>>> visible. But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>>>>>>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any >>>>>>>>>> viable form, they are going to have to be based on significant >>>>>>>>>> change to >>>>>>>>>> the organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and >>>>>>>>>> schmooze their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be >>>>>>>>>> seen what >>>>>>>>>> value the GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course >>>>>>>>>> somewhat >>>>>>>>>> embattled for somewhat different reasons). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Kevin M. 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