Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not just > racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. They don’t > even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. They may > speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do not work for > real news organizations of any kind. > > If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, not > into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US newspapers, but > entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. > > On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are >> basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, but >> I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of >> permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. >> >> I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not >> recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the UK. >> I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be published >> in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: >> >> https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ >> >> >> >> Adam >> >> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what they >>> are asking for - they want them to more than triple their current >>> membership, which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher >>> professional standards, would basically marginalize the current membership. >>> >>> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having to >>> take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, without >>> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until the >>> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and practices >>> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no longer >>> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >>> >>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, and >>>> there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership to >>>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, which they >>>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive privilege. >>>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>>> >>>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, >>>>> announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for reform by >>>>> the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more changes >>>>> were made. >>>>> >>>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global PR >>>>> firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, >>>>> including >>>>> press conferences.” >>>>> >>>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate and >>>>> take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly visible. >>>>> But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>>> >>>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any viable >>>>> form, they are going to have to be based on significant change to the >>>>> organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and schmooze >>>>> their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be seen what value >>>>> the >>>>> GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course somewhat embattled >>>>> for >>>>> somewhat different reasons). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>> Kevin M. 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