On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 1:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > And now NBC weighs in - almost inevitably, they will not televise GG this > year, > I clear if they have to pay the $60M rights fee. > > > > https://deadline.com/2021/05/golden-globes-canceled-nbc-2022-hfpa-1234753314/ >
And Warner Bros and HBO are backing away from HFPA as well. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-10/warner-bros-and-hbo-cut-ties-with-hfpa-as-crisis-deepens-for-golden-globes-group Our long national nightmare might finally be over > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Amazon joins Netflix in dissing and dismissing the HFPA >> >> >> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-05-07/times-up-blasts-golden-globes-group-reforms-as-window-dressing-as-publicist-continue-boycott >> >> >> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So, that is a big part of the push back here. These people are not just >>> racist oddballs, they are not in any recognizable terms “press”. They don’t >>> even pretend to honor or have professional journalistic standards. They may >>> speak with various kinds of non-American accents, but they do not work for >>> real news organizations of any kind. >>> >>> If they survive, it will be because they will transform themselves, not >>> into an association of Hollywood correspondents for non-US newspapers, but >>> entertainment writers for non-US media outlets. >>> >>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 3:39 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm pretty sure that these days, most of these "foreign press" are >>>> basically freelancers who might publish the odd article here and there, but >>>> I wouldn't imagine many news organisations these days have any kind of >>>> permanent Hollywood entertainment correspondents. >>>> >>>> I remember years ago seeing a list of the then membership and not >>>> recognising any of the British names as writing for major titles in the UK. >>>> I actually spent some time researching everyone who claimed to be published >>>> in the UK. Spoiler: few of them seemed to be actually published here: >>>> >>>> https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2004/12/golden_globes_w/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:06 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think something like your first suggestion is pretty much what they >>>>> are asking for - they want them to more than triple their current >>>>> membership, which is not adding thousands, but, along with higher >>>>> professional standards, would basically marginalize the current >>>>> membership. >>>>> >>>>> I do think the main motivation is to stop their talent from having to >>>>> take all those fawning photographs with the awful HFPA people, without >>>>> having to pay a price in losing nominations/wins. By boycotting until the >>>>> current membership is diluted enough to blunt their toxicity, and >>>>> practices >>>>> are changed so that fluffing and blowing the “journalists” is no longer >>>>> necessary or allowed, they are protecting themselves. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 12:19 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I’ve been trying to think of what the HFPA could do at this point, >>>>>> and there really isn’t anything, short of opening up their membership to >>>>>> include hundreds if not thousands of international film critics, which >>>>>> they >>>>>> would never do as they consider their membership an exclusive privilege. >>>>>> The current members — all of them — are the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are the odds Netflix hosts/produces its own awards show? I’m >>>>>> thinking that’s what they’re gearing up to announce. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:03 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yesterday Netflix, which dominated the most recent Golden Globes, >>>>>>> announced it was not satisfied with recently announced plans for reform >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> the HFPA, and would not be working with them anymore until more changes >>>>>>> were made. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is on top of an announcement the same day that 100 global PR >>>>>>> firms would “continue to refrain from any HFPA sanctioned events, >>>>>>> including >>>>>>> press conferences.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No doubt a number of big stars want to avoid having to associate and >>>>>>> take photos with HFPA members when their racism is increasingly visible. >>>>>>> But Deadline reports that also at issue is the informal, >>>>>>> corruption-friendly policies that govern HFPA activities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It does seem that if the Golden Globes are to continue in any viable >>>>>>> form, they are going to have to be based on significant change to the >>>>>>> organization, making it more diverse and less corrupt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, if studios and publicists can no longer buy and schmooze >>>>>>> their way to nominations and wins, it will remain to be seen what value >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> GG add to the Emmys and Oscars (themselves of course somewhat embattled >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> somewhat different reasons). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2021/05/netflix-hollywood-foreign-press-ultimatum-ted-sarandos-diversity-inclusion-controversy-1234752218/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLoSkryMm9VRc-dQz9c_a3XycrFRSZ2HbVtgd8t%2BZOD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CxZ7YpHO45OFKMObsuKM0rA6W_VWxxan1TWAefTodb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CxZ7YpHO45OFKMObsuKM0rA6W_VWxxan1TWAefTodb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLVOKizKa-%2B-orCDPi99XPnmOC7sMPqKSst2TTXgAsJPw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLVOKizKa-%2B-orCDPi99XPnmOC7sMPqKSst2TTXgAsJPw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGBJ8p6SfLo6Dio7m7Rb4O_7oE%2BvjEx1ochO2df2NckcwQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGBJ8p6SfLo6Dio7m7Rb4O_7oE%2BvjEx1ochO2df2NckcwQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJvaPneD-Q-PdS%3DRhi1f8NGoE%2B8542uPRXkvbD2W8jdfA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJvaPneD-Q-PdS%3DRhi1f8NGoE%2B8542uPRXkvbD2W8jdfA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DMrnWsM3p4LDmd1QVXnv%2BtRC_cBYLTCyy0LFyAFV2dRg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DMrnWsM3p4LDmd1QVXnv%2BtRC_cBYLTCyy0LFyAFV2dRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLmPcrwMMgoou1YOwwB5AHRR%3D137KyiygJ%3D2D51L_MHyA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLmPcrwMMgoou1YOwwB5AHRR%3D137KyiygJ%3D2D51L_MHyA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4BY6GvDpxsddhdkq_wSH8fQTeXYGnszc_htvHYJVDJEvQ%40mail.gmail.com.
