On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 11:04:55 AM -0800, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> I don't know where the subscription-required-to-post meme comes
> from.  It is simply not true.

OK, no problem. Either my memory is simply wrong about this or I _may_
have confused libreoffice lists with apache-oo ones. No matter, thanks
for the explanation

>  3. I thought your proposal was interesting and that, in 2010, it
>  was talking about users@ OO.o by the term ooo-users

correct. I was talking of the old list, and to the libreoffice list,
where some of the email geniuses from that old list had just migrated.

> The one problem that I am aware of is the inability for folks to
> know whether a post is from a non-subscriber or not.

(this is the 4th or 5th time since 2002 I explain the same thing on
this list, so I'm sure you'll excuse me)

"FOLKS" MUST KNOW AND BOTHER ABOUT NOTHING. EVER. THEY MUST SIMPLY,
COMPLETELY FORGET THE DAMN WHOLE "ISSUE" AND GET ON WITH THEIR LIFE
USING MAILING LISTS AS GOD INTENDED, IE ONLY REPLY TO THE LIST.  ALL
"FOLKS" HAVE TO DO, ONCE AND FOR ALL, IS :

find one guy VERY good at procmail, with access to a linux server on
which doing what follows:

- periodically, automatically copy, with script, list of subscribers
  to a file

- subscribe dummy email address to list

- set up procmail on that dummy email address and read access to the
  file above so that, every time a message is from an address NOT in
  that file, it writes its MSG-ID to a cache and the nonsubscribed
  address to a must-get-copy-list.

  - From there on, every reply in that same thread (all these messages
  are easily recognizable as replies to messages with MSG-ID already
  in the cache) has its MSG-ID written to the cache AND a copy sent to
  the nonsubscribed email address

- burn the computer and internet connection of every subscriber that
  still insists with sending duplicated replies.

Me, I will NOT do this for a bunch of reasons, that go from not having
in full all the requirements above to the thought that some of the
[email protected] people who insisted for years that the "resending-copy to
non-subscribed posters" are still around on the new aoo/libreoffice
lists, so they would keep doing things that way. However, the MSG-ID
trick above would be just be an improved version of this, already
existing and perfectly working one:

http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/how-ignore-uninteresting-threads-in-mailing-lists/

HTH,
        Marco

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