VACList-Digest Saturday, November 3, 2001 Issue 112
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Counter filler tape
2. Re: transmission discussions
3. Re: STOLEN BAMBI
4. Re: Name not numbers???
5. Re:
6. Re:
7. Re: STOLEN BAMBI
8. Re:
9. Re: heft
10. Re: heft
11. Re: Tow Vehicle for Sovereign?
12. Re: STOLEN BAMBI - LOJACK
13. Re:
14. Re: STOLEN BAMBI - LOJACK
15. Re: Airstream Flag, Calendar & stuff
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Message Number: 1
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 20:04:25 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Counter filler tape
Thanks, Charlie.
Daisy
Charlie/Betty Burke wrote:
>
> Daisy Welch wrote:
>
> > The cork floor was a great addition to our last outing for the winter.
> > What I need now is a way to finish off the edge.
> >
> > On the counters of my '73, there is a plastic tape/moulding that is
> > stuck over the gaps and between the counter top and the wall. I want
> > something like that.
> >
> > First problem is what is it called ?
> >
> > And where can I get it ?
> >
> > Daisy
> >
>
> That stuff is called Gimp. Honest. While it used to be very common in the
> industry it's use has declined recently. Just about any old line RV parts
> store should have some stuck in the back some were. Typical cost is 10-20
> cents a foot.
>
> Charlie
>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:34:47 -0700
From: jere potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: transmission discussions
Jon- I also have the same transmission E40D (Auto), I believe, in my '95 F150,
and have had no problems with it. Currently, I am at about 68k with it. Changed
the fluid earlier this year. I tow my '64 Safari about twice a year. It is the
towing package on a supercab 4x4. I chose the 302 engine, which is fine for the
99% of the time I am not towing. I could use more power in the mountains
uphill, but hey- I used to have a VW bus, and that taught me to take my time.
First time in a long time I have lived with 8 cylinders.
I do actively shift the transmission while going Up and down. If the engine
seems to lug, I will downshift, getting higher RPMs & HP, and maintaining
better speed. But generally do not tow in OD. I will sometimes IF I am on a
long gradual downgrade, where I am helped by gravity. If it begins to want to
change between 3rd & OD, I will manually lock it out and keep it in 3rd. Any
more of a downgrade I will downshift to help hold me back and save the brakes.
Since it's usually in the Mountains, this is the best time for the driver (me)
to enjoy the scenery, too. For the most of the time I tow in 3rd, my mileage
averages out to about 10 mpg. Even with the dual tanks, It gives me a good
range. When not towing, it's more like 17 mpg, with a 400 mile range.
So, not everybody is having transmission problems (knock on wood). I have read
other reviews of this transmission that consider it very reliable.
When I bought , the stated towing capacity for the manual trans was about half
of what the auto could pull. I would rather have a manual with a higher degree
of control for mtn driving, but have gotten used to the auto.
Jere Potter
Ft Collins CO
Jon Fitz wrote:
> As a newcomer to the Airstream world, the transmission discussion is pretty
> disturbing. I have a '95 E250, which has had the transmission rebuilt once
> already--before I even owned a trailer. This also, was an E4OD. Ford's
> "customer service" wasn't exactly inspiring (some might consider it totally
> lame), and I was left wondering what the world has come to when nobody is
> surprised to see a transmission failure on a 3/4 ton truck at less than
> 70,000 miles. From the discussion, it seems that mine was not an isolated
> experience.
>
> It seems impractical to tow a trailer in 3rd gear. I don't have a
> tachometer, but by ear, 50mph seems to be the limit for how fast you'd want
> to go in 3rd. That's great going up a hill, but here in SC, you can cause a
> considerable disturbance just by driving the speed limit (70 mph on the
> interstate).
>
> I am planning to install a temp gage and filter (just got them, thanks to
> the helpful postings). But, I am quickly reaching the conclusion that the
> solution is a manual transmission.
>
> Jon
> 68 Overlander
>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 01 18:54:23 -0700
From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STOLEN BAMBI
The stealing of the Bambi is a sad affair. Unfortunately you learn of
the theft of the smaller trailers from time to time and I suspect a lot
more are stolen then we know of. I have had some concern for my 16', 56
model unit and searched for a tire/wheel lock to fortify the lock systems
I have in sue that may be of helpful but are still not enough for the
small trailers that can be easily chained onto a tow vehicle of about
any size. As a result I found a tire lock system called the "Pit Bull"
which meets my needs. It is pricey but when you consider its cost
amortized over a few years it is very low cost insurance.
WEB site is:; www.tirelock.com: Email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel. 505 989-3678,
I have only had it a few weeks but I haven't lost my trailer yet!
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 01 19:34:39 -0700
From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name not numbers???
For those who want to identify themselves on their trailers it is very
easy to do with vinly decal lettering that can be made at most
computerized sign shops. Put them on your back window and you don't have
to worry about "shadow" marking your alumininum. If you ego needs it put
the signeage on every window.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 22:48:27 -0800
From: "Wayne A. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
Hi Pat,
This is one milestone that Vintage Airstreams have reached that has a very
negative outcome.
They have become so valuable that some would risk a term in jail for the
black market resale value.
Certainly not stolen by someone actually going to use it for its intended
purpose.
I liked them a lot better when they were only worth a thousand bucks just a
few short years ago.
WAM
> Message Number: 13
> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 07:46:15 -0800
> From: Patrick Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: STOLEN BAMBI
>
> Sadly I need to report that last weekend in the Seattle, Wash. area a
> Bambi was stolen. I received a phone call from the disturbed owner and
> then an e-mail with this description and a picture. It seems that he
> just recently purchased it and hasn't yet transfered it into his name so
> it's still in the previous owner's name. From what the owner says it
> seems to be in very good condition.
>
> If anyone suspects hearing about or seeing this unit please contact the
> proper people. I'm sending the exact wording that the owner sent to me.
> As far as I know Lorenze Wood was never a VAC president.
>
> STOLEN: 1961 Bambi Airstream trailer 16' overall; California license
> 2FT3420, VIN 16TDSS1701, from parking lot Kitsap County on October 26
> along with another plywood trailer. This trailer was formerly owned by
> the president of the Vintage Airstream Club, San Diego Chapter (Lorenz
> and Jean Wood -- 909-659-4352) and bears several window stickers to that
> effect. Distinguishing features include AC on the roof, rear bike rake
> and spare tire, small dents on rear corners, official Airstream (WBCCI)
> #5925 still very visible on rear/front of trailer above windows. $1,000
> reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the
> person responsible. Contact Doug Leen (206) 200-5563 or D. Meserve,
> Kitsap County Sheriff's Office (360) 337-7101.
>
> It would be nice if we could help Doug get his Bambi back, so please,
> ..................... if anyone sees or hears of this unit please
> contact the proper folks.
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Ewing (another 1961 Bambi owner and this hits close to home)
>
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Message Number: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:07:32 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
HELLO TO YOU ALL,
MY HUBAND & I , JUST GOT A 1992 SOVERIGN? AIRSTREAM LAST WEEK.
WE ARE REALLY ANXIOUS TO TAKE A TRIP---MAYBE TO FLORIDA, NEXT FEB.,
BUT, RIGHT NOW WE OWN A VW BEETLE. WE ARE PLANNING TO TRDE THAT IN SOON, BUT
WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE SHOULD GET.
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT A DODGE DURANGO, A MERCURY MOUNTAINEER, & A FEW OTHER
VEHICLES THAT FRIENDS HAVE SUGGESTED. IF ANY OF YOU COULD GIVE US A FEW MORE
IDEAS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
ALSO, I HEARD ABOUT A AIRSTREAM FLAG, & A CALANDER. IF YOU KNOW WHERE I COULD
PURCHASE THESE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING SOME OF YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE MISSED
THE GET TOGETHER IN REHOBOTH BEACH BECAUSE WE HAD JUST PURCHASED OUR
AIRSTREAM THAT WEEK. IT'S IN OUR YARD,
& I'VE BEEN SLEEPING OUT THERE FOR A WEEK NOW-------AND I LOVE IT!!!!!
VERY HAPPY NEW OWNERS, RENE & CRISSY HONZIK PHILA. PA
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Message Number: 7
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:03:08 -0700
From: Gerald or Donna Shippen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STOLEN BAMBI
The stealing of the Bambie is a sad affair...
I agree Roy, I have thought about someone stealing our old Silver Salley
ever since we purchased it and in fact have left it in many, many places
where I suspected it could happen. I have always taken the equalizer hitch
off the suburban and locked it in the trailer hitch, with the hope that
would slow them down some, though all they would have to do is cut the lock
on the hitch and be off with her. Your wheel lock sounds like the answer.
GAS
66 Overlander ("Silver Salley")
62 Globetrotter ("Walley")
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Message Number: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:19:30 -0600
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
I'm with you, Jon. Pulling with a stick is the way to go, especially with
the right rear end and a heavy duty clutch--and the basic skill to slip the
clutch as little as possible and keep the revs down when you do. To me,
driving a heavy trailer with a stick is less work than with an automatic, as
you don't have to worry about overheating, shifting manually anyway to avoid
TC stall, trying to figure out exactly where the kickdown switch is so
you're not downshifting when you don't want to, etc. Not to mention better
mileage and performance.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
> From: VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:37:57 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> I am planning to install a temp gage and filter (just got them, thanks to
> the helpful postings). But, I am quickly reaching the conclusion that the
> solution is a manual transmission.
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 00:53:21 -0500
From: Chris Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heft
I better put the hitch lock on while I sleep ,otherwise might wake up in a
container headed for who knows where....
Chris 67 caravel
"Wayne A. Moore" wrote:
> Hi Pat,
>
> This is one milestone that Vintage Airstreams have reached that has a very
> negative outcome.
> They have become so valuable that some would risk a term in jail for the
> black market resale value.
> Certainly not stolen by someone actually going to use it for its intended
> purpose.
> I liked them a lot better when they were only worth a thousand bucks just a
> few short years ago.
>
> WAM
>
> >
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 02:01:38 -0600
From: lefty frizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heft
He who steals my purse steals trash.
He who steals my Excella had hope he can drive that thing to Tokyo!
Lefty Frizzell
http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chris Elliott
Sent: Friday, 02 November, 2001 23:53
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: heft
I better put the hitch lock on while I sleep ,otherwise might wake up in
a container headed for who knows where.... Chris 67 caravel "Wayne A.
Moore" wrote:
> Hi Pat,
>
> This is one milestone that Vintage Airstreams have reached that has a
> very negative outcome. They have become so valuable that some would
> risk a term in jail for the black market resale value.
> Certainly not stolen by someone actually going to use it for its
intended
> purpose.
> I liked them a lot better when they were only worth a thousand bucks
just a
> few short years ago.
>
> WAM
>
> >
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 02:09:17 -0600
From: KEVIN D ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tow Vehicle for Sovereign?
Greetings Rene and Crissy!
> HELLO TO YOU ALL,
> MY HUBAND & I , JUST GOT A 1992 SOVERIGN? AIRSTREAM LAST WEEK.
> WE ARE REALLY ANXIOUS TO TAKE A TRIP---MAYBE TO FLORIDA, NEXT FEB.,
> BUT, RIGHT NOW WE OWN A VW BEETLE. WE ARE PLANNING TO TRDE THAT IN SOON,
BUT
> WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE SHOULD GET.
> WE'VE HEARD ABOUT A DODGE DURANGO, A MERCURY MOUNTAINEER, & A FEW OTHER
> VEHICLES THAT FRIENDS HAVE SUGGESTED. IF ANY OF YOU COULD GIVE US A FEW
MORE
At 30 feet plus, and a loaded weight likely to exceed 7,000 pounds - - a
Durango or Mountaineer would be struggling with the weight not to mention
the length. While either may have a tow capacity nearing the loaded weight
of a Sovereign, towing at the maximum load limit for a tow vehicle results
in (sometimes) greatly diminished performance and (often) much higher
maintenance costs (IMHO). In addition, when there is a significant
disparity between the weight of the trailer and the tow vehicle, the trailer
will tend to command the tow vehcile creating a very uneasy driving
experience for the driver where there is a near constant need for direction
correction and any side wind (natural or from passing semis) becomes
amplified as the tow vehicle and trailer "fight for control" - - I had an
accident with my first trailer (a Nomad) where the trailer outweighed my tow
vehicle by nearly 50% and the wind from a passing semi caused the trailer to
overpower the tow vehicle (even with dual friction sway bars) causing
trailer and tow vehicle to perform a 180 degree turn in the middle of a
state highway - - fortunately my speed was under 40 MPH and there was
minimal damage to the tow vehicle but the stress damaged the frame of the
trailer. My Overlander is 26 ft. 8 in. <and weighs 6,000 pounds loaded for
a vacation>, and I wouldn't consider anything less than a 3/4 ton SUV or
pickup derived vehicle for towing - - I tried the 1/2 ton route and
experienced poorer fuel economy, dangerous lack of power on montain grades,
and excessive maintenance expenses (the truck had a 6,800 pound traker tow
rating and was a special order vehicle purchased new).
> IDEAS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
My suggestion would be to contact a dealer and obtain the Maximum Vehicle
Weight Rating for your Sovereign. Use this figure when shopping for an
appropriately rated tow vehicle. I suspect that the maximum weight rating
for your Sovereign may approach 8,000 pounds. The rule of thumb that I
followed when I purchased my current tow vehicle was to take my maximum
loaded weight for the trailer and multiply it by a factor of 1.5 to obtain
my target tow rating for vehicles that I was considering - - the result has
been very satisfactory - - the 3/4 ton SUV barely recognizes that the
trailer is there, it has plenty of reserve power to safely maneuver today's
congested highways, and it achieves the same or better fuel economy than the
1/2 ton pickup that preceeded it - - in actuality, my tow vehicle exceeded
my 1.5 factor by a significant margin as its factory tow rating was/is
10,000 pounds. The cost of a 3/4 ton tow vehicle may seem steep at first,
but I think that you might find as I did that maintenance may be
significant (in my case comparing a 1995 K1500-Z71 Chevrolet Club Cab Pickup
with a 1999 K2500 Suburban) - - 20% better tire wear, 35% better brake
lining wear, u-joints have lasted twice as long and are still in good shape,
ball joints and tie rod ends have lasted 30% longer and are still in good
shape, shocks have lasted twice as long and are still in good shape, and
best yet - - the same or slightly better fuel economy solo and 10% better
economy towing in part because the Suburban can tow in overdrive and the
pickup was too underpowered to consider doing so. The pickup had a 5.7
liter V8 and the Suburban has a 7.4 liter Vortec V8. I generally tow my
trailer 6,000 to 10,000 miles per year which is why I favored towing
performance in my selection - - if your plans are not for large amounts of
long-distance travel and/or your plans do not include mountainous travel,
you may be satisfied with a tow vehicle that meets the maximum loaded weight
of your trailer - - be prepared for some potential white knuckle expereinces
on the highway.
> ALSO, I HEARD ABOUT A AIRSTREAM FLAG, & A CALANDER. IF YOU KNOW WHERE I
COULD
> PURCHASE THESE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Information about purchasing the WBCCI flags will be included with your
membership materials from International and your local unit. The same is
true of the VAC flags, the information is included with the membership
materials and can be found in the back of each issue of the Vintage
Advantage (the quarterly newsletter of the VAC). I purchased my copy of the
calendar at the International Rally in Sioux Falls, and am not certain about
which vendor is offering them.
> WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING SOME OF YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE
MISSED
> THE GET TOGETHER IN REHOBOTH BEACH BECAUSE WE HAD JUST PURCHASED OUR
> AIRSTREAM THAT WEEK. IT'S IN OUR YARD,
> & I'VE BEEN SLEEPING OUT THERE FOR A WEEK NOW-------AND I LOVE IT!!!!!
>
> VERY HAPPY NEW OWNERS, RENE & CRISSY HONZIK PHILA. PA
Good luck in your search for the appropriate tow vehicle.
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 01:27:45 -0800
From: "Carol and Oliver Filippi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STOLEN BAMBI - LOJACK
How about installing a Lojack anti theft device in rhe trailer? The thief
would get the surprise of his life.
Oliver Filippi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Lashway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:54 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: STOLEN BAMBI
> The stealing of the Bambi is a sad affair. Unfortunately you learn of
> the theft of the smaller trailers from time to time and I suspect a lot
> more are stolen then we know of. I have had some concern for my 16', 56
> model unit and searched for a tire/wheel lock to fortify the lock systems
> I have in sue that may be of helpful but are still not enough for the
> small trailers that can be easily chained onto a tow vehicle of about
> any size. As a result I found a tire lock system called the "Pit Bull"
> which meets my needs. It is pricey but when you consider its cost
> amortized over a few years it is very low cost insurance.
> WEB site is:; www.tirelock.com: Email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel. 505 989-3678,
>
> I have only had it a few weeks but I haven't lost my trailer yet!
>
>
> Roy Lashway
> '78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
> WBCCI 1610 VAC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
> (polishing report included)
>
>
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:15:38 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
Rene & Chrissy,
Welcome to the ranks of Airstream owners!
You ask about tow vehicles. I must echo Kevin Allen's advice. The
Mountaineer and Durango are both going to be marginal tow vehicles (at best)
for your trailer. This is a case of larger is better. You REALLY should be
looking at 3/4 ton vehicles. This means A Suburban type vehicle or a pickup.
The manufacturers all offer towing packages, make sure the vehicles that you
look at have the heavy duty towing package (equipped to handle a 10,000
pound trailer and don't let a sales person talk you into something lesser).
I guarantee that you will be pleased with the results. The suspensions on
these vehicles have come a long way in the last few years and the ride
quality and handling is generally very good. Do not let the size intimidate
you. When you get the trailer behind it you will have a much greater sense
of safety and control traveling down the road than if you tried to make a
smaller vehicle do the job.
I have towed my 26 foot Overlander now for over 20 years with many different
tow vehicles. I was amazed at the difference that a tow vehicle would make.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
> HELLO TO YOU ALL,
> MY HUBAND & I , JUST GOT A 1992 SOVERIGN? AIRSTREAM LAST WEEK.
> WE ARE REALLY ANXIOUS TO TAKE A TRIP---MAYBE TO FLORIDA, NEXT FEB.,
> BUT, RIGHT NOW WE OWN A VW BEETLE. WE ARE PLANNING TO TRDE THAT IN SOON,
BUT
> WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE SHOULD GET.
> WE'VE HEARD ABOUT A DODGE DURANGO, A MERCURY MOUNTAINEER, & A FEW OTHER
> VEHICLES THAT FRIENDS HAVE SUGGESTED. IF ANY OF YOU COULD GIVE US A FEW
MORE
> IDEAS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
snip-----
> VERY HAPPY NEW OWNERS, RENE & CRISSY HONZIK PHILA. PA
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:54:00 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STOLEN BAMBI - LOJACK
What does the Lowjsck actuallu do?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol and Oliver Filippi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How about installing a Lojack anti theft device in rhe trailer? The thief
> would get the surprise of his life.
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 08:14:49 -0800
From: RJ & Krista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream Flag, Calendar & stuff
Hi guys - welcome!
Here's some links to get you started:
Airstream flag (@bottom of the page):
http://www.airstream.org/contacts.html
VAC:
http://www.airstream.org/membership.html
Calendar:
http://www.airstream.org/reading.html
Towing:
http://www.airstream.org/faqs.html#weights
Um, you also need to turn off your caps lock though, makes the e-mail
real hard to understand - plus as one reads it, it translates like
someone shouting.
Best of luck,
RJ
VAC Webmaster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> HELLO TO YOU ALL,
>....
> ALSO, I HEARD ABOUT A AIRSTREAM FLAG, & A CALANDER. IF YOU KNOW WHERE I COULD
> PURCHASE THESE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
>....
> VERY HAPPY NEW OWNERS, RENE & CRISSY HONZIK PHILA. PA
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