There's some stuff in here that I'd rather not answer, simply because it
comes especially close to blip's core business strategy and every single
one of our competitors (current or future, real or imagined) hangs out
on this list and lurks.  Suffice it to say that I generally agree with
your analysis with a few key differences (not all MSM video content on
the Web is repurposed, for example) and that being a "supportive
network" for content creators is extremely important to blip.tv -- we
believe that the way we distribute revenue, respect the fundamental
rights of content creators and provide tools that actually empower
content creators is very good for business.

As far as the opt-in/opt-out business, I agree.  I just want to have the
ability to mark certain good actors (like AOL) as opt-out / "default on"
both as a negotiating tool and so that we can deliver the value of the
significant AOL Video network to blip.tv users, whether or not they
spend the time to really browse around, read and understand the
Distribution section of our Dashboard.

Yours,

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roxanne Darling
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy and Magnify and 
> aggregators in general
> 
> Thank you Mike for taking on this stuff, and applying your 
> level-headed and intelligent resources to the task!
> 
> The generic lingering issue I see is the monetization piece. 
> If VCs continue to invest in online video sites, then 
> somebody thinks there is good money to be made, aside from 
> Google Ads. How that money (which is presumably related in 
> some way to pageviews/popularity) gets distributed, is of 
> interest to me.
> 
> Was there any discussion about this piece of the puzzle? Did 
> you talk with them about blip's policy of splitting ad 
> revenues and if so, what were there positions? Do you think 
> that policy helps you attract a certain quality of content 
> that can be monetized more easily with advertisers?
> 
> I see essentially four types of video content:
> - MSM re-purposed for internet delivery (see iTunes)
> - original content by the likes of us on this list
> - business-originated content for a b2b and b2c purpose
> - mostly short clips by hobbyists, kids, etc just for fun now and then
> 
> Do you all (hosting sites/aggregators) talk about it in those 
> ways and how to deal with and/or leverage each of us accordingly?
> 
> I want us indies to get a piece of the pie we are helping 
> bake. To create sustainable businesses, originality, 
> popularity, and page views need to convert to dollars and I 
> am interested in developing that conversation further.
> 
> Related to this is whether they are changing their TOS or not.
> 
> As Rupert mentioned, having opt-out as the default is a way 
> of giving the authority to the producer rather than the 
> aggregator. If few people opted in, due to an out-of-balance 
> TOS or tacky site or whatever, it might incentivize the 
> aggregators to move their business models in our direction so 
> we can more effectively help each other succeed.
> 
> ALoha and mahalo nui Mike for your good will and tireless attention.
> 
> Rox
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/07, Lan Bui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow, thanks for all the hard work and time you have spent 
> on this. I  
> > think it is great.
> >
> >  -Lan
> >  www.LanBui.com
> >  --------------------
> >
> >
> >  On Jan 25, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Mike Hudack wrote:
> >
> >  Hey guys,
> >
> >  I just wanted to give everyone an update on where we stand with 
> > MyHeavy  and Magnify, since I've met with the CEOs both 
> companies in 
> > the last  three days. Both of the meetings were for the 
> same purpose 
> > -- they took  place because people on this list complained 
> about the 
> > way the companies  were aggregating their videos. The 
> meeting agenda 
> > was simple: to work  with these companies to allow them to 
> meet their 
> > business goals without  infringing on the copy or other 
> rights of original content creators.
> >
> >  Both meetings went well. MyHeavy removed aggregated video content 
> > from  its site immediately after we spoke on the phone. This was an 
> > easy  thing for them to do, since for them aggregation is a 
> feature of 
> > a  larger business. In the case of Magnify it's much more 
> difficult to 
> > do  this because their entire business is based on aggregation.
> >
> >  MyHeavy is planning to bring aggregation back, but to do 
> so in a way  
> > that conforms with the best practices that have been (I believe) 
> > largely  agreed upon and endorsed by this group. Specifically, they 
> > will not  include advertising in the playback experience without 
> > express  permission from original content creators; they will not 
> > watermark the  video; they will give credit by prominently 
> noting the 
> > original source  of the video in the form of a link to the original 
> > content creator's Web  site; and they will allow content 
> creators to 
> > control aggregation  through support for the MediaRSS restriction 
> > standard (whch will be  controllable through a MyHeavy aggregation 
> > control panel in the blip.tv  Dashboard).
> >
> >  Magnify continues to aggregate blip.tv video to their destination 
> > sites,  and they are currently including Google AdSense 
> advertisements 
> > on pages  that include video players from other sources, including 
> > blip.tv. We  are currently working with Magnify's CEO to 
> determine how 
> > best to  address this issue, since Magnify's entire 
> business model is 
> > based on  the ability to monetize aggregators through advertising. 
> > Either way,  Magnify has agreed to support the MediaRSS restriction 
> > standard in the  same way as MyHeavy and others. You will 
> be able to 
> > control aggregation  to Magnify through a control panel in 
> the blip.tv 
> > Dashboard. Because of  Magnify's current position on advertising we 
> > are considering the  possibility of making the default position for 
> > Magnify "opt-out" rather  than opt-in (unlike providers who adhere 
> > closely to all points of the  best practices). Content creators who 
> > are okay with player-adjacent  AdSense advertisements because they 
> > want the extra traffic that Magnify  may generate will 
> easily be able to opt in.
> >
> >  Please let me know if these are acceptable outcomes for you, and 
> > we'll  proceed with implementation with both companies.
> >
> >  -------
> >  Mike Hudack
> >  CEO, blip.tv
> >
> >  Office: 917-546-6989
> >  AIM: mikehudack
> >
> >  Read the blip.tv blog: http://blog.blip.tv/
> >
> >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> 
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